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Comments all removed. The parent asked why I defend apple and I laid out my argument. Clearly people cared enough to respond and react. And yet I'm being downvoted for sharing my perspective just because it might be contrarian? Maybe that's /not/ why I'm being downvoted, but that's what it feels like to me. So no thanks. I'm content to keep my opinions to myself.

That is a false dichotomy, Apple vs. Google. I think it's a poor way of trying to make sense of the situation. Keep in mind that the word "Google" is not even cited in the link. There's no need to defend every one of Apple's decisions, sometimes people do stuff that sucks, or even brings Google to the discussion just to defend Apple. EDIT: That said, your points were good, I liked the articulation of your comment, I…

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"And finally, there’s the related notion that anyone who doesn’t like Apple’s rules can pick up and move to another platform, like Android. Which is ridiculous." What? Ridiculous how? This claim is ridiculous. Suck it up and use Android. You'll live. I did.

He was referring to the fact that once you've made significant investments in a platform + applications + DRM content, it's not really straightforward to move to another platform, especially because you cannot transfer the content you already paid for.

Also let's not forget about early termination fees from carriers, or getting another subscription just to get another phone.

For some people moving to another platform can be a significant expense. And for most people it's not really clear what else you might be missing on the other platform, that you were accustomed to using now.

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Now everyone should know, if they didn't before, why Apple is no Microsoft. Apple isn't content to create a platform, they want to own everything. They want a walled garden, they want captive users, they want to be able to demand exorbitant profit margins in perpetuity. Mostly benign monarchies may seem very attractive at first glance, but over time abuse of power is inevitable and then it's too late.

I wonder how much content will end up simply as web apps and web sites and then it won't matter what platform the end user chooses. I've changed my focus from iOS to web because of Apple's policies.

I wish that were practical, but Web apps just don't measure up for a lot of domains. Personal example: I was recently toying with the idea of porting a design program to be a Web app, but even just getting very simple typography right is pretty intractable.

Re: Why are you people defending Apple?

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Uhh, it's an ingrained reflex from my teens.

Because they're not Microsoft.

It's just the leftover bitterness of Amiga Persecution Complex. Billg killed the Amiga

...or so it is widely believed, especially in Europe.

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That is a false dichotomy, Apple vs. Google. I think it's a poor way of trying to make sense of the situation. Keep in mind that the word "Google" is not even cited in the link. There's no need to defend every one of Apple's decisions, sometimes people do stuff that sucks, or even brings Google to the discussion just to defend Apple. EDIT: That said, your points were good, I liked the articulation of your comment, I…

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I'm sure the one all-encompassing corporate overlord is better than the other. Absolutely! Where do I enlist?

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Apart from some of those examples being incredibly tenuous (personal computing), and the concept of defending companies position on one thing because you like its decisions elsewhere being kinda scary. But Google has had that impact on the entire web, both by providing visibility and a revenue stream via advertising.

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Make judgment calls in each case.

Don't like or dislike a company, that's just senseless. Rather, like or dislike what a company does. Appreciate IBM's Watson, and dislike IBM's European business dealings in the 30's and 40's. Appreciate contributions Apple has made to personal computing, disliking their control-freak attitude.

Use your brain, don't make sweeping generalizations by sweep shit under the carpet.

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I'm sure the one all-encompassing corporate overlord is better than the other. Absolutely! Where do I enlist?

Apple isn't enjoying almost monopoly like status on the internet. It is a walled garden.

If you want the alternative there are plenty out there, but they are not going to be as likely to make you money.

I wonder why Apple see it fit to charge for that.

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I wonder how much content will end up simply as web apps and web sites and then it won't matter what platform the end user chooses. I've changed my focus from iOS to web because of Apple's policies.

I wish that were practical, but Web apps just don't measure up for a lot of domains. Personal example: I was recently toying with the idea of porting a design program to be a Web app, but even just getting very simple typography right is pretty intractable.

Sure, not everything can be a web app, but a lot of the subscription world can easily be ported to web app, since the content will likely be delivered in HTML.

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Apart from some of those examples being incredibly tenuous (personal computing), and the concept of defending companies position on one thing because you like its decisions elsewhere being kinda scary. But Google has had that impact on the entire web, both by providing visibility and a revenue stream via advertising.

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Google is great for consumers, but they are really terrible for businesses

Apple has been "terrible" for Nokia and RIM. Competition and consumer surplus and creative destruction are good, even if in the short run some businesses suffer.

The revenue stream you site is an addiction for most sites

This is somehow different from the revenue that publishers earn from Apple's app and iTunes stores?

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