Live data from Hacker News

ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

genneko.github.io

21–30 of 245 posts

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you like the tinkering and believe there should be (fringe) alternatives to mainstream OSes?

> ...mainstream OSes? Look how far we've come. Linux was the alternative OS just ~15 years ago. Now it's one of the mainstream OSes . TBH, I'd like to see one of the BSDs to become one of the mainstream OSes too. :) edit: Except macOS ofc. :)

Well, a BSD-branded BSD isn't. (MacOS is technically a BSD.)

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#22
post #2

>Ethernet and WiFi work, although WiFi is a bit slow (only up to 802.11a?) compared to 802.11n/802.11ac capable OSes. And stuff like this is why I've never stuck with FreeBSD when I've tried it. I screw around with debugging issues all day at work. Why would I want to try to figure out why something as fundamental as wifi isn't working in my spare time?

Because it's fast enough you don't notice it's "slow" outside of benchmarks?

802.11a is not just slow in benchmarks. That’s easily perceptibly slow, even when doing ordinary web browsing (given that web pages are orders of magnitude larger than when 802.11a was mainstream)

Theoretically 802.11a is the same speed as 802.11g, but in practice it drops off super quickly and means a “simple” page (like gmail/outlook) is loading in 30s-1m.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#23
How about the trackpad? And the power switch?

I've been running Ubuntu and Kali on a Dell machine for a few years and the trackpad has always been unusuable and the power switch is always power-down (instead of sleep, standby).

Yes, I've messed with the xorg settings for the trackpad and the ACPI settings for the button, but gave up.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#24
post #3

The other good development with Thinkpads is the introduction of AMD processors in their mainstream offerings (T495, T495s, X395, etc.). Unfortunately their screens suck though.

While not for most people, it is realtively easy to replace the screen with a higher quality panel. I have a T495, and replaced the panel with a higher quality one. No screws, just sticky stuff, I was concerned about this at first, as I didn't know of the sticky substance would remain viable after swaping thescreen, but it is working great. Since I am not changing panels everyday, it isn't an issue.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#25
post #2

>Ethernet and WiFi work, although WiFi is a bit slow (only up to 802.11a?) compared to 802.11n/802.11ac capable OSes. And stuff like this is why I've never stuck with FreeBSD when I've tried it. I screw around with debugging issues all day at work. Why would I want to try to figure out why something as fundamental as wifi isn't working in my spare time?

Because it's fast enough you don't notice it's "slow" outside of benchmarks?

I suspect the author is mistaken about calling it 802.11a speeds but if it was, then it'd absolutely be noticeable speed wise. 802.11a is a rather old (more than 20 years old now) standard that only supported up to 54Mbit/s speeds. Just copy a file or push some commits and you'll start to notice it.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#26
post #7

I also have a t480, mines running Ubuntu but unfortunately I’m giving it up for a new MacBook Air. The touchpads on the thinkpads are beyond horrible after using macs for many years, it’s finally too annoying for me to keep going :(

in the non-mac world, ThinkPads have some of the best touchpads, too. The closest to a mac touchpad I have seen so far has been the Dell XPS touchpad, which imo is hands-down the best touchpad experience on a non-mac machine.

The only issue I have with the trackpads on Linux is palm rejection not working. This is an annoyingly common problem unfortunately, so you rest your wrist for just a second while typing and the cursor jumps to some random point on the screen and clicks.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#27
I dropped FreeBSD as my main laptop about four years ago (and have invested a fair bit of time on dockerising my experience on ubuntu so going back is hard)

But what I wanted then (and dreamed of having a million or so to make it real) was a FreeBSD reference laptop - basically a distribution of FreeBSD that worked in this laptop series - you bought the laptop and a years support and basically three hackers just kept on producing patches and co-ordinating drivers and making simple tools and simple videos on how to keep your base running.

I work on top of my laptop. I would prefer to just take the barest plain vanilla, and not have to work on my laptop unless I choose to.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...mainstream OSes? Look how far we've come. Linux was the alternative OS just ~15 years ago. Now it's one of the mainstream OSes . TBH, I'd like to see one of the BSDs to become one of the mainstream OSes too. :) edit: Except macOS ofc. :)

Is Android still built on Linux?

Yes.

Re: ThinkPad T480 is my new main laptop which runs FreeBSD

#29
post #7

I also have a t480, mines running Ubuntu but unfortunately I’m giving it up for a new MacBook Air. The touchpads on the thinkpads are beyond horrible after using macs for many years, it’s finally too annoying for me to keep going :(

in the non-mac world, ThinkPads have some of the best touchpads, too. The closest to a mac touchpad I have seen so far has been the Dell XPS touchpad, which imo is hands-down the best touchpad experience on a non-mac machine.

Haven't had a thinkpad for a few years. Are they still dimpled? edit: doesn't look like it
Post reply on HN