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Post by esotericn »

whatshisface wrote: post #7

One surreal aspect of the modern system, when viewed from the perspective of 1800s leftism, is that there are many programmers (laborers, technically) who have more money than the average landlord. How do you draw the pyramid then?

I would be very surprised if that were to be true when comparing like-for-like e.g. not comparing an SF-based programmer to a landlord in a fairly empty state.

There have always been labourers in wealthy countries that are better off in pure "numbers" terms than landlords in poor countries.

The average landlord in London or SF is likely wealthier than the average programmer in London or SF.

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Post by _def »

In the recent months I've been thinking more and more about the capitalist system and it's flaws. In case of doubt it's about profit and not about humans (ridiculous pharma patents, boeing 737 max; there are countless examples everywhere).

It seems to me that the whole world can't live peacefully side by side by design when everyone is always striving for more money, power and growth. I don't know how to fix this but it's an interesting problem.

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Post by whatshisface »

odiroot wrote: post #19
whatshisface wrote: post #7

One surreal aspect of the modern system, when viewed from the perspective of 1800s leftism, is that there are many programmers (laborers, technically) who have more money than the average landlord. How do you draw the pyramid then?

Only in the USA bubble. Even software engineers are barely middle/upper-middle class in most of the world. A landlord, lawyer, doctor can easily gather more wealth.

That makes it even weirder, because Europe is a lot more leftist than the USA.

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Post by lbrooks »

iron0013 wrote: post #20
lbrooks wrote: post #9

HN is removing things that are 'libertarian' but not things that are 'socialist.' If socialist content is on the table, then libertarian content should be as well. When an article about a Libertarian movie reviewer on LetterBoxd was flagged and removed from Hn yesterday within minutes... https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/society-reviews-letterboxd-b...

Is it considered kosher here to post a link in a comment after it was flagged and made dead? Seems like you’re trying to circumvent HN’s system.

And you are one of the people who said it should be removed!

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Post by [deleted] »

LegitShady wrote: post #14
lbrooks wrote: post #9

HN is removing things that are 'libertarian' but not things that are 'socialist.' If socialist content is on the table, then libertarian content should be as well. When an article about a Libertarian movie reviewer on LetterBoxd was flagged and removed from Hn yesterday within minutes... https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/society-reviews-letterboxd-b...

Agreed. I thought hn was about staying away from stuff like this. Nobody learned anything valuable from a Wikipedia entry on a socialist cartoon.

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Post by odiroot »

whatshisface wrote: post #25
odiroot wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only in the USA bubble. Even software engineers are barely middle/upper-middle class in most of the world. A landlord, lawyer, doctor can easily gather more wealth.

That makes it even weirder, because Europe is a lot more leftist than the USA.

AFAIK nowhere in the world software engineering is as appreciated and treated seriously as in the US.

I assume maybe Canada and Australia are very close. But in some countries (not gonna name names), it's not even worth to put yourself through all these years of hard education. You'd be better off becoming an accountant.

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