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IE9 vs. Firefox 4 (done in canvas)

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Re: IE9 vs. Firefox 4 (done in canvas)

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Post by emehrkay »

orenmazor wrote: post #9

all this tells me is that firefox is scared of IE. which I guess is a good thing.

They have nothing to worry about. Take this from someone who is going bald at a faster rate because I needed to assist in porting an chrome-only app over to support IE9. FF, Safari, Opera were no problem, money was all spent on IE

Re: IE9 vs. Firefox 4 (done in canvas)

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Post by catshirt »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #5
catshirt wrote: post #3

seeing all this energy wasted trying to convince people firefox 4 is better than ie 9 sort of solidifies my belief that chrome reigns supreme

Not sure why their marketing affects the actual merits of Firefox or Chrome, but. I agree that Firefox is trying a bit too hard (though this appears to simply be one user). Additionally, Chrome is still faster and has less ui-chrome that gets in my way. I also find the extensions to be more cleanly implemented still than Firefox 4's.

these are all my thoughts as well. i didn't mean to suggest their marketing affects/suggests anything really. i just can't see who they're targeting with the posts. was there anyone who needed convincing that ie has less features? how does this benefit them?

in my completely unqualified opinion, i'd have guessed they'd be better off persuading the growing wave of users who are switching from firefox to chrome.

Re: IE9 vs. Firefox 4 (done in canvas)

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Post by yesimahuman »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #5
catshirt wrote: post #3

seeing all this energy wasted trying to convince people firefox 4 is better than ie 9 sort of solidifies my belief that chrome reigns supreme

Not sure why their marketing affects the actual merits of Firefox or Chrome, but. I agree that Firefox is trying a bit too hard (though this appears to simply be one user). Additionally, Chrome is still faster and has less ui-chrome that gets in my way. I also find the extensions to be more cleanly implemented still than Firefox 4's.

The one thing I dislike about Chrome is that I still find it buggy at times on my mac. Buggy in strange ways and especially with the inspector/debugger. That being said, I still use it as my main browser. Going back to FF annoys me when there are two input boxes (address bar and search) and that the tabs don't close under each other (for really convenient tab closing). Other than that I'm sort of indifferent.

Re: IE9 vs. Firefox 4 (done in canvas)

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Post by jlongster »

tmgrhm wrote: post #15
jlongster wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IE 9 is a valid contender, especially outside of the tech crowd. It's also about to be released, so it makes sense for marketing to focus on it.

True, but it's not the contender they should be focusing on. It's like Apple comparing iOS to Symbian and lauding how great iOS is, when really they should be watching Android.

I work for Mozilla, and we are watching Chrome. It's just not the right time to campaign against Chrome. Chrome is only eating away from IE's market share, and IE 9 could attract a lot of non-techie users.

Adopting a process-per-tab model is currently being implemented (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis), and I imagine once that's done we will be discussing Chrome a lot more.

Re: IE9 vs. Firefox 4 (done in canvas)

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Post by wot »

fungi wrote: post #11

> What's missing in IE9? ... text-shadow ... CSS3 Gradients ... border-image ... really? MS wont even support frikken text shadows? ffs ms. don't ship the fucking thing then, just take your time and get it right, please don't break everything again, my life is to short. what did i do to you to make you hate me so :(

> don't ship the fucking thing then

I thought IE9 was still a work in progress?

Re: IE9 vs. Firefox 4 (done in canvas)

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Post by barista »

fungi wrote: post #11

> What's missing in IE9? ... text-shadow ... CSS3 Gradients ... border-image ... really? MS wont even support frikken text shadows? ffs ms. don't ship the fucking thing then, just take your time and get it right, please don't break everything again, my life is to short. what did i do to you to make you hate me so :(

Ok if we are going to discus this all over again then it helps to first read the older thread at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2221831

Re: IE9 vs. Firefox 4 (done in canvas)

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Post by Derbasti »

Well, at least IE9 is somewhat up to date. HTML5 is still a working draft that no-one implements fully. Everyone implements a certain subset of it and I don't quite see how one subset is supposed to be superior to another subset as long as their is no one who implements it fully. Gee, at least Microsoft is making an effort!

And by the way, an uncluttered, fast-starting browser that implements a somewhat smaller subset of HTML5 than a messy, slow-as-molasses browser might have something going for it, too. Just sayin'

Re: IE9 vs. Firefox 4 (done in canvas)

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Post by acabal »

I'm still not sure what the point of all this is. Any developer worth their salt already knows that IE9 is more or less a small step forward but still far short of what it needs to be and of what FF/Chrome have accomplished ages ago. Any non-technical user won't be reading this article and won't give a damn about IE vs. FF vs. Chrome, as long as their internets work.

Why keep up the pissing match? Who are they talking to?

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