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Re: What It's Like to Work on League of Legends

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Post by SeanBoocock »

0x8BADF00D wrote: post #16
scrumbledober wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading through this I thought "this sounds like everything I heard about Riot a few years ago but I wonder if things have changed more recently" then I saw the time stamp...

Any company in the games industry is like this. It’s a sweatshop.

No, there are many, perhaps the majority, that are mature companies that respect employees’ work-life balance. I have worked in the industry for going on a decade and had mostly positive experiences. The poor experiences were either isolated to a specific team or part of a larger culture that I have seen change for the better.

Re: What It's Like to Work on League of Legends

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Post by teej »

Reedx wrote: post #20
trenning wrote: post #4

Another take on what it's like to work there when the copy isn't curated by HR and PR. https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Riot-Games-Reviews-E247538... Written 1/24/2020 - 11 days ago, Pros - Colleagues who really really care about what they're doing - The best campus and amenities you're going to see in LA - Being surrounded by other gamers/people of similar ages and hobbies - Cool products - a ton of R&D Cons -…

Why cherry pick 1 review? You could've copied the more representative aggregation of reviews: Pros: "Riot is a great place for gamers" (in 79 reviews) "Cares about Rioters: Riot has fantastic perks because they want to keep the talent (that's us) happy" (in 67 reviews) "Best free food I’ve eaten, benefits are great, and there is a lot of opportunity if you are willing to work for it" (in 40 reviews) "people that play…

Review volume is not a useful indicator. HR departments actively lobby employees to write positive reviews. These will always outnumber the honest reviews.

Re: What It's Like to Work on League of Legends

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Post by Reedx »

0x8BADF00D wrote: post #16
scrumbledober wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading through this I thought "this sounds like everything I heard about Riot a few years ago but I wonder if things have changed more recently" then I saw the time stamp...

Any company in the games industry is like this. It’s a sweatshop.

That's ridiculous. Game companies are nothing like sweatshops and the reality is much less sensational than what you hear about, which should be no surprise.

Most are basically 9-5, generally with flexible hours. Often free food/snacks/games and other perks. Some take Friday afternoons off to drink and play games. Crunch toward release does happen a lot, it's a problem, but they're getting better about avoiding it.

You hear about the horror stories instead because that's outside the norm. "Game company mostly works normal hours, chills on Friday afternoons" isn't going to get much attention.

Re: What It's Like to Work on League of Legends

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Post by celticmusic »

0x8BADF00D wrote: post #16
scrumbledober wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading through this I thought "this sounds like everything I heard about Riot a few years ago but I wonder if things have changed more recently" then I saw the time stamp...

Any company in the games industry is like this. It’s a sweatshop.

Their COO would literally walk up to an employee and flick their balls, smack their ass, HUMP on them, and fart in their face (not all at once, although does that matter?)

Maybe you consider that normal in game dev companies, but I have to believe that's outside the norm.

The guy got suspended without pay for 2 months.

https://www.businessinsider.com/riot-games-suspends-coo-scot...

Re: What It's Like to Work on League of Legends

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Post by Reedx »

teej wrote: post #22
Reedx wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why cherry pick 1 review? You could've copied the more representative aggregation of reviews: Pros: "Riot is a great place for gamers" (in 79 reviews) "Cares about Rioters: Riot has fantastic perks because they want to keep the talent (that's us) happy" (in 67 reviews) "Best free food I’ve eaten, benefits are great, and there is a lot of opportunity if you are willing to work for it" (in 40 reviews) "people that play…

Review volume is not a useful indicator. HR departments actively lobby employees to write positive reviews. These will always outnumber the honest reviews.

Cherry picking 1 review is a much less useful indicator. And there's no way to know if it's an honest one. Nor is there a way to know which ones were solicited or not.

So the closest you're going to get to usefulness is seeing what the common pros and cons are.

Re: What It's Like to Work on League of Legends

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Post by keanzu »

Reedx wrote: post #20
trenning wrote: post #4

Another take on what it's like to work there when the copy isn't curated by HR and PR. https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Riot-Games-Reviews-E247538... Written 1/24/2020 - 11 days ago, Pros - Colleagues who really really care about what they're doing - The best campus and amenities you're going to see in LA - Being surrounded by other gamers/people of similar ages and hobbies - Cool products - a ton of R&D Cons -…

Why cherry pick 1 review? You could've copied the more representative aggregation of reviews: Pros: "Riot is a great place for gamers" (in 79 reviews) "Cares about Rioters: Riot has fantastic perks because they want to keep the talent (that's us) happy" (in 67 reviews) "Best free food I’ve eaten, benefits are great, and there is a lot of opportunity if you are willing to work for it" (in 40 reviews) "people that play…

> "Some Rioters lack a sense of appreciation" (in 59 reviews)

This phrasing immediately struck me as odd so I went looking for an actual review:

'Some Rioters lack a sense of appreciation. Some Rioters, particularly those who have never worked a "real job," do not seem to appreciate what Riot offers them.'

Smells like astroturfing.

Re: What It's Like to Work on League of Legends

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Post by cosmotic »

Reedx wrote: post #25
teej wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Review volume is not a useful indicator. HR departments actively lobby employees to write positive reviews. These will always outnumber the honest reviews.

Cherry picking 1 review is a much less useful indicator. And there's no way to know if it's an honest one. Nor is there a way to know which ones were solicited or not. So the closest you're going to get to usefulness is seeing what the common pros and cons are.

The cherry picked review is consistent with the numerous horror stories from the industry.

Re: What It's Like to Work on League of Legends

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Post by shultays »

0x8BADF00D wrote: post #16
scrumbledober wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading through this I thought "this sounds like everything I heard about Riot a few years ago but I wonder if things have changed more recently" then I saw the time stamp...

Any company in the games industry is like this. It’s a sweatshop.

That is quite a generalization
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