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U.S. wants the EU to accept chemical-washed chicken as part of trade deal

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Re: U.S. wants the EU to accept chemical-washed chicken as part of trade deal

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What's the health impact of the chemical-washed chickens?

An excellent question. If anyone can link to some authoritative information on this, I'd be interested in reading it, too. All I got from a Google search is yoga mom blogs. I'd like to see what a .gov health agency has to say about it.

but .gov means US health agency... doubt they can be trusted on this issue.

Re: U.S. wants the EU to accept chemical-washed chicken as part of trade deal

#22

What's the health impact of the chemical-washed chickens?

To quote the article:

> It’s vinegar, essentially. To say that’s unsafe or not to be used, we don’t think there’s a basis for that in sound science.

If you're fine with using vinegar elsewhere in food, you should be fine with this.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's a poverty food, and buying and eating meat seems already pretty gross to me, so people who choose to eat this kind of stuff are probably quite desperate and their choices aren't great. I'm sad for the extra animals that will end up living in even worse conditions (EU laws are a bit more generous when it comes to cage sizes etc. ) but I can totally understand that some people will genuinely prefer the US ch…

Well, it's a poverty food I'm not sure what this means. Are you trying to say that poor people shouldn't be allowed to eat?

How is pointing out that poor people are unable to afford high quality food saying that they should not eat?

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I really hope the EU will not allow this kind of US meat into the EU market...

If they do, I hope they make sure that it has to be labelled on the food. They do that with a lot of things, and then it’s really easy not to buy it.

That's the whole point of the trade deals though. It wouldn't be labelled properly, since it would be considered unfair competition.

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> Perdue on Monday defended [...] the technique to disinfect poultry [...], arguing that U.S. farmers now use a chemical called peracetic acid rather than chlorine: "Peracetic acid ... is a great pathogen reduction treatment. You know what it is? It's vinegar, essentially. To say that's unsafe or not to be used, we don't think there's a basis for that in sound science." I always thought the EU doesn't want this proce…

I don't understand the logic. If the end result is unequivocally good, why do the steps along the way matter beyond the "eww" factor?

Re: U.S. wants the EU to accept chemical-washed chicken as part of trade deal

#26

What's the health impact of the chemical-washed chickens?

My understanding is the chemical wash isn't the inherent issue here. It's the fact that they need to be chemically washed in the first place. Due to factory farming, chickens live in piles of their own poop, and with that comes tons of other unhealthy side effects. To combat that, in the US we simply give them a chemical bath.

The issue at hand is that the EU doesn't want low quality chicken entering the market because it could cause health issues if not cleaned properly, and at the volume we produce, it's likelier than not to be done improperly at some point, at scale. It's just not worth the risk.

But, I could be missing the mark entirely. This is all from memory when I read up on EU food standards a few years ago. My memory of all of these things could be completely off here.

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I really hope the EU will not allow this kind of US meat into the EU market...

If they do, I hope they make sure that it has to be labelled on the food. They do that with a lot of things, and then it’s really easy not to buy it.

Unless you're eating in a restaurant.

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's a poverty food, and buying and eating meat seems already pretty gross to me, so people who choose to eat this kind of stuff are probably quite desperate and their choices aren't great. I'm sad for the extra animals that will end up living in even worse conditions (EU laws are a bit more generous when it comes to cage sizes etc. ) but I can totally understand that some people will genuinely prefer the US ch…

Well, it's a poverty food I'm not sure what this means. Are you trying to say that poor people shouldn't be allowed to eat?

I've seen some people with the attitude that eating any meat is disgusting, no better than roadkill, and that it should only be done by poor people who can't afford to eat completely plant based diets.

Re: U.S. wants the EU to accept chemical-washed chicken as part of trade deal

#29

What's the health impact of the chemical-washed chickens?

An excellent question. If anyone can link to some authoritative information on this, I'd be interested in reading it, too. All I got from a Google search is yoga mom blogs. I'd like to see what a .gov health agency has to say about it.

So the question becomes, what is the impact to consumers?

Does one process result in a less healthy product or not?

In other words what is the advantage of being sterile all they eat through versus ensuring sterility at the end of the process? Is one more prone to letting pathogens slip through?

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