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Who Deserves This? (2018)

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Re: Who Deserves This? (2018)

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He paid off hit men to murder other people. Fuck him.

No, he didn't.

The prosecutor "addressed the jury and stated that none of the six contracted murders-for-hire occurred." These charges were dismissed with prejudice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht#Silk_Road,_arres...

Re: Who Deserves This? (2018)

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I’ve thought the punishment of Ross was extremely too harsh: life in prison without the possibility of parole. I know the government paints this picture of him as a major drug smuggler, but I think we in the tech world are smarter than that and realize creating a platform is different than selling. After all, are EBay and Amazon liable for all the counterfeit things on their page? Should Bezos go to jail? I also thin…

If Bezos tried to have six people killed, then yeah, he should be in jail.

Except Ross never did. False allegations used to smear him.

Re: Who Deserves This? (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why was he not prosecuted for that? There wasn't even enough evidence to bring that to the trial.

Because there was no need to, the other charges were enough to put him away for life. There's really very little reason to doubt he did it, either.

Educate yourself.

The prosecutor "addressed the jury and stated that none of the six contracted murders-for-hire occurred." These charges were dismissed with prejudice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht#Silk_Road,_arres...

Re: Who Deserves This? (2018)

#25

I’ve thought the punishment of Ross was extremely too harsh: life in prison without the possibility of parole. I know the government paints this picture of him as a major drug smuggler, but I think we in the tech world are smarter than that and realize creating a platform is different than selling. After all, are EBay and Amazon liable for all the counterfeit things on their page? Should Bezos go to jail? I also thin…

Except Amazon doesn't have a category called "Counterfeit Beats Headphones". Silk Road had categories for items that were explicitly illegal; those categories were created by site administrators. The "just a marketplace" argument doesn't really pass the test; SR was complicit. I can't open a flea market with a section called "Cocaine" and claim innocence when merchants actually sell Cocaine.

However, I agree his punishment is excessive; a 20-40 years sentence with possibility of parole would seem appropriate.

Re: Who Deserves This? (2018)

#26

He paid off hit men to murder other people. Fuck him.

Then why was he not prosecuted for that? There wasn't even enough evidence to bring that to the trial.

Great summary of course of events going over his message logs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpMP6Nh3FvU

Also exposes a lot of the bias of the Free Ross movement (mainly his mom).

The evidence is clear as day - no reason to doubt that he did it.

The feds didn't need to this specific charge because they got him on everything else.

Re: Who Deserves This? (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> After all, are [...] Amazon liable for all the counterfeit things on their page? Should Bezos go to jail? Yes. Amazon is fucking up the functioning of the overall market, by undercutting legal products with fraudulent fake products, while shielding the criminals from retribution. It's been extremely harmful and Bezos should be punished for it.

Which store on Amazon is ran by Bezos?

All of them.

Re: Who Deserves This? (2018)

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Just in case any of you are wondering who Ross is ... He created the Silk Road, a popular online exchange for illegal drugs, and prosecutors alleged that he paid $730K to try to kill six people. (He was not, however, charged with attempted murder. Instead, he was charged and convicted of money laundering and drug offenses.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht EDIT: I just want to make completely clear that I…

I'm sorry, but boo fucking hoo. He knew exactly what he was doing -- running a drug trafficking marketplace -- was highly illegal. He went to extensive lengths to conceal that activity from law enforcement, so it's not like he didn't know what he was doing was against the law. He made a lot of money doing this.

I'm a big believer in criminal justice reform, but this is one of those instances where what he was doing was so dangerous that someone had to be made an example of at the highest level. To be honest, his arrest and conviction likely saved his life: sooner or later the cartels would have found him, tortured him to gain control of the site, then dissolved his body in acid.

Re: Who Deserves This? (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which store on Amazon is ran by Bezos?

All of them.

Seems like you also think that Mark Zuckerberg runs my FB profile? IMHO that is a very unproductive way of thought. Also (on top of absence of practical correctness) most likely formally incorrect, but I'm not a English native speaker. Definitely would be invalid in my language though.
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