Woooo I have a feature in this release! Contributing to standard tooling feels good.
Congrat :D
Elixir v1.10
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Re: Elixir v1.10
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the keyword in the v1.9 announcement was "major user-facing features". :) Back then we also said: > We will continue shipping new releases every 6 months with enhancements, bug fixes and improvements. I would say v1.10 is quite close to this sentiment: a bunch of improvements and enhancements but nothing really major. The main new feature in v1.10 is "compiler tracing" but that will be directly used by a smal…
Jose I really love the years of work you’ve put into Elixir (and Phoenix as a framework). Can’t say thank you enough.
+1
Re: Elixir v1.10
#23Note as of v1.9, Jose said the language was feature complete. All subsequent releases will focus on improvements and bug fixes. Not new features. https://elixir-lang.org/blog/2019/06/24/elixir-v1-9-0-releas... >> ”As mentioned earlier, releases was the last planned feature for Elixir [v1.9]. We don’t have any major user-facing feature in the works nor planned. I know for certain some will consider this fact the most…
I think the keyword in the v1.9 announcement was "major user-facing features". :) Back then we also said: > We will continue shipping new releases every 6 months with enhancements, bug fixes and improvements. I would say v1.10 is quite close to this sentiment: a bunch of improvements and enhancements but nothing really major. The main new feature in v1.10 is "compiler tracing" but that will be directly used by a smal…
Hello Jose, first of all, thank you for Elixer and Phoenix. A question that has been bugging me for a long time why Phoenix (arguably, built on one of the most reliable and battle tested stacks) has a dependency on NPM, something that I'd rather not see on any of my computers at all. Would you care to give insight into how this decision was reached and what if anything can be done to do Phoenix development and deploys without any NPM dependencies?
thank you!
Re: Elixir v1.10
#24This is the first release of Elixir after the Nubank acquisition of the parent company - http://blog.plataformatec.com.br/2020/01/important-informati...
It is curious to see Plataformatec being referred to as Elixir's parent company but I guess it makes sense legally. Plataformatec does own the trademarks for the name and language - which we are currently working on moving the control to the Elixir Core Team.
In terms of development, however, it is more of a shared custody by many community members and companies. For example, Elixir Core Team has 6 developers and only one of them was employed by Plataformatec (me).
So I would describe Plataformatec as an incubator. Elixir wouldn't exist without their support but even back in 2013/2014 we already had other companies investing in the language and the ecosystem. An investment which has grown over the last years. Plus, I am still directly involved in the same capacity as always, as this release shows. :)
Re: Elixir v1.10
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the keyword in the v1.9 announcement was "major user-facing features". :) Back then we also said: > We will continue shipping new releases every 6 months with enhancements, bug fixes and improvements. I would say v1.10 is quite close to this sentiment: a bunch of improvements and enhancements but nothing really major. The main new feature in v1.10 is "compiler tracing" but that will be directly used by a smal…
Hello Jose, first of all, thank you for Elixer and Phoenix. A question that has been bugging me for a long time why Phoenix (arguably, built on one of the most reliable and battle tested stacks) has a dependency on NPM, something that I'd rather not see on any of my computers at all. Would you care to give insight into how this decision was reached and what if anything can be done to do Phoenix development and deploy…
I believe there is a flag you can pass when you create your Phoenix application that removes webpack/npm/etc. If you are using Phoenix to build APIs, then you can pass `--no-html`, that will get rid of these and other dependencies. However, if you are writing JavaScript/CSS, than it is most likely that you want to use the tooling that exists in the Node ecosystem.
TL;DR - you can opt-out at any time.
Re: Elixir v1.10
#26This is the first release of Elixir after the Nubank acquisition of the parent company - http://blog.plataformatec.com.br/2020/01/important-informati...
It is curious to see Plataformatec being referred to as Elixir's parent company but I guess it makes sense legally. Plataformatec does own the trademarks for the name and language - which we are currently working on moving the control to the Elixir Core Team. In terms of development, however, it is more of a shared custody by many community members and companies. For example, Elixir Core Team has 6 developers and onl…
Thanks for your work Jose! My second dev language in my career after PHP was Elixir, and I think I’m a better developer for it. It took me months to learn, I felt like I was learning Martian, but I hope to get back to a job where I’m working in Elixir some day.
Re: Elixir v1.10
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the keyword in the v1.9 announcement was "major user-facing features". :) Back then we also said: > We will continue shipping new releases every 6 months with enhancements, bug fixes and improvements. I would say v1.10 is quite close to this sentiment: a bunch of improvements and enhancements but nothing really major. The main new feature in v1.10 is "compiler tracing" but that will be directly used by a smal…
Hello Jose, first of all, thank you for Elixer and Phoenix. A question that has been bugging me for a long time why Phoenix (arguably, built on one of the most reliable and battle tested stacks) has a dependency on NPM, something that I'd rather not see on any of my computers at all. Would you care to give insight into how this decision was reached and what if anything can be done to do Phoenix development and deploy…
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Re: Elixir v1.10
#28Having learnt Ruby and a bit of Erlang, I'm interested in Elixir so I fire this tangential question: How would you recommend to learn Elixir? And a follow-up: some ideas for personal Elixir-based projects?
If you really want to learn Elixir, you should learn enough Erlang prior, to get a better understanding of how Erlang/OTP all fits together. Thus, I would recommend the following structure:
1. Read Joe Armstrong's Book: Programming Erlang to learn the basics and the philosophy behind Erlang from one of its creators. [1]
2. Read Erlang and OTP in Action to learn more about the OTP (Open Telecom Platform), applications and gen_servers (which btw, you will find them all over).
3. Learn Elixir, perhaps from one of the books Elixir in Action [3] or Programming Elixir. [4]
4. Finally, start implementing your cool personal project.
Ah, one more thing: Elixir School is also a wonderful resource with tons of information and examples [5] and of course the official Elixir website with its excellent docs. [6]
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[1] https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Erlang-Concurrent-Pragmat...
[2] https://www.amazon.com/Erlang-OTP-Action-Martin-Logan/dp/193...
[3] https://www.amazon.com/Elixir-Action-Sa%C5%A1a-Juri-cacute/d...
[4] https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Elixir-1-6-Functional-Con...
Re: Elixir v1.10
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the keyword in the v1.9 announcement was "major user-facing features". :) Back then we also said: > We will continue shipping new releases every 6 months with enhancements, bug fixes and improvements. I would say v1.10 is quite close to this sentiment: a bunch of improvements and enhancements but nothing really major. The main new feature in v1.10 is "compiler tracing" but that will be directly used by a smal…
Jose I really love the years of work you’ve put into Elixir (and Phoenix as a framework). Can’t say thank you enough.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Re: Elixir v1.10
#30Having learnt Ruby and a bit of Erlang, I'm interested in Elixir so I fire this tangential question: How would you recommend to learn Elixir? And a follow-up: some ideas for personal Elixir-based projects?
If you really want to learn Elixir, you should learn enough Erlang prior, to get a better understanding of how Erlang/OTP all fits together. Thus, I would recommend the following structure: 1. Read Joe Armstrong's Book: Programming Erlang to learn the basics and the philosophy behind Erlang from one of its creators. [1] 2. Read Erlang and OTP in Action to learn more about the OTP (Open Telecom Platform), applications…
This makes me not want to learn elixir. Learning one language and becoming masterful at it is hard enough. There's too many "learn this language, but also this other language and platform"'s in my life (JVM-based work, and anything in the front-end JavaScript world it feels like these days). It just feels like you are telling people "Here, learn this language, but also learn the assembly instruction set for your architecture as well" -- that's not the reason I choose to use higher level language.