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Re: What is going on at Opera Software?

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ya know what. when opera presto had feature parity with chrome, developers still walled their websites with useragent checks so for your average joe nothing worked and it created a negative feedback loop of users blaming the browser and devs avoiding supporting it. what else could they do? with chromium engine opera suddenly worked (lol).. there was still a lot of value on top of that, like a native speed dial that w…

Vivaldi just switched to using Chrome's user agent (even though it was Chromium based a large number of sites failed these kinds of checks). It's not like advertising to the market that you have 1% usage share actually changed anything and you still have your counts of active installs on hand.

Re: What is going on at Opera Software?

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Opera ended the day they deprecated their own rendering engine and became yet another Chromium wrapper, which we already have more than enough of.

> Opera ended the day they deprecated their own rendering engine and became yet another Chromium wrapper, which we already have more than enough of.

The real fly in the ointment for me when Opera ditched Presto was the loss of M2. I have tens of thousands of emails it just handles with little to no overhead. Back when I was subscribed to multiple mailing lists relevant to my job, it just handled those, too. The world of mail clients seems to have thinned out to me, but I haven't seriously tried anything else in awhile. I've been holding out for Vivaldi's M3, but given that they've taken so long to get it done, I'll be surprised if it's ever released.

Re: What is going on at Opera Software?

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Anybody remember Operas beta feature "Opera Fridge"? Source: http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/fridge....

I remember using most of the stuff Opera browser offered. RSS reader was amazing, email client was great. I even used their torrent client. It was all built in the browser.

Re: What is going on at Opera Software?

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I wish Opera would open source their presto engine. I'm guessing that isn't possible due to some licensing issues. Personally I find it unfortunate that all that amazing work will be lost. While I didn't use Opera due to it's proprietary nature, as a browser engine it was competitive for its time. I'm having the same feeling now about the EdgeHTML engine which is now being fazed out. This engine was a breath of fresh…

There was a source leak a while back talked about here on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13417307. I'm still seeding this torrent and you may find it elsewhere. http://superkuh.com/opera12v15presto-source.torrent

Re: What is going on at Opera Software?

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Not entirely relevant but; RIP Opera. It was a competent browser even after it became Chromium based, now few people trust it and even fewer people use it. Hope some of the features I remember seeing back when I used it, especially the ones in Opera GX, make it to other browsers.

Re: What is going on at Opera Software?

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Wow, I did use Opera for years and also on mobile when in Africa with limited data plans.

Time flies, I still remember Opera 10 years ago, they probably had the best tech April Fool's I ever stumbled upon with their "Face gestures"[1].

When you had a team that could create that behind your product, you knew that the team cared and was driven by passion and excellent craftmanship.

[1]: https://dev.opera.com/blog/introducing-opera-face-gestures/

Re: What is going on at Opera Software?

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Anybody remember Operas beta feature "Opera Fridge"? Source: http://images.ientrymail.com/webpronews/article_pics/fridge....

I remember using most of the stuff Opera browser offered. RSS reader was amazing, email client was great. I even used their torrent client. It was all built in the browser.

They had news and irc clients too iirc?
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