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Re: DevDegree: Work at Shopify and get a free CS degree in parallel

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Post by gigatexal »

swyx wrote: post #3

i am wishing i could go back 15 years and do this now. i was dumb enough to go to an ivy league for an unrelated degree, then change careers and go thru a bootcamp, and i'm now still 100's of thousands in debt. if i was growing up today i would absolutely drop everything to do this. kudos to shopify but it really feels a little bittersweet.

While my debt load is not nearly as much I did the same thing. I studied economics even though when I got home from class I would spend hours and hours tinkering with hardware, Linux, and programming. Everyone I talked to thought I was silly for not sticking with my CS major and doing Economics. They were right. I am learning on the job and it’s been kicking my butt but I am learning and it’s been good though I would go back and tell my old self to stick with CS.

Re: DevDegree: Work at Shopify and get a free CS degree in parallel

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Post by dstroot »

codegeek wrote: post #17
chrisseaton wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> now still 100's of thousands in debt Is that hyperbole, or literally your debt is that much?

GP went to an Ivy league. Totally possible

More than possible. Highly likely.

Re: DevDegree: Work at Shopify and get a free CS degree in parallel

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Post by Malp »

willjp wrote: post #19
duxup wrote: post #4

As someone who went the bootcamp route, got a job, and absolutely would love a structured CS education that would expand my skills and experience beyond my day to day coding I do now this is very tempting. The site isn't very specific about location, are there location requirements?

There are two universities involved: Carleton (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada) and York (Toronto, Ontario, Canada). You must apply and qualify for the university degree, in addition to being selected by shoppify themselves. If I remember correctly when I asked about it, the University also had some say in the selection process. When I looked into it, the number of accepted was quite low (I believe less than 15 per year), wh…

I'm currently in the program; the university side of the application and Shopify side were separate. The Shopify interview consisted of several interview stages, while York & Carleton looked at your academic transcript, same as any Canadian program.

Re: DevDegree: Work at Shopify and get a free CS degree in parallel

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Post by cmwelsh »

faceyspacey wrote: post #18
swyx wrote: post #3

i am wishing i could go back 15 years and do this now. i was dumb enough to go to an ivy league for an unrelated degree, then change careers and go thru a bootcamp, and i'm now still 100's of thousands in debt. if i was growing up today i would absolutely drop everything to do this. kudos to shopify but it really feels a little bittersweet.

Just never pay the debts bro. Forget that shit and let it all go, and start stacking to live a debt free stress free life.

I know you’re downvoted for saying something that’s basically unethical, but I’m interested: how do you propose to buy a home using this strategy? All cash? In my area, I’d need around $200,000 cash. I know there’s trailer parks and etc. but they may not work for everyone.

Re: DevDegree: Work at Shopify and get a free CS degree in parallel

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Post by dwohnitmok »

codegeek wrote: post #17
chrisseaton wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> now still 100's of thousands in debt Is that hyperbole, or literally your debt is that much?

GP went to an Ivy league. Totally possible

Given the amount, that's actually fairly unlikely to be from the Ivy League education. Generally Ivy League schools cost less (sometimes way less) than public schools unless your family makes more than ~130-150k combined and/or has fairly substantial assets.

One possible way for it to happen is if a student's parents have a high income, are unwilling to pay for the student's education and force the student to shoulder the financial burden, and the student does not argue his/her case to the financial aid office. Another possible way is if the family has a relatively high pre-existing net worth, but low income, and is unwilling to spend the income, and again the student shoulders the debt.

Re: DevDegree: Work at Shopify and get a free CS degree in parallel

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Post by redis_mlc »

willjp wrote: post #19
duxup wrote: post #4

As someone who went the bootcamp route, got a job, and absolutely would love a structured CS education that would expand my skills and experience beyond my day to day coding I do now this is very tempting. The site isn't very specific about location, are there location requirements?

There are two universities involved: Carleton (Ottawa, Ontario, Canada) and York (Toronto, Ontario, Canada). You must apply and qualify for the university degree, in addition to being selected by shoppify themselves. If I remember correctly when I asked about it, the University also had some say in the selection process. When I looked into it, the number of accepted was quite low (I believe less than 15 per year), wh…

Shopify's HQ is in Ottawa, hence Carleton University.

York is in suburban Toronto.

Those schools are not quite in the same league as Toronto or Waterloo, but they're adequate.

Re: DevDegree: Work at Shopify and get a free CS degree in parallel

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Post by xenihn »

chrisseaton wrote: post #16
swyx wrote: post #3

i am wishing i could go back 15 years and do this now. i was dumb enough to go to an ivy league for an unrelated degree, then change careers and go thru a bootcamp, and i'm now still 100's of thousands in debt. if i was growing up today i would absolutely drop everything to do this. kudos to shopify but it really feels a little bittersweet.

> now still 100's of thousands in debt Is that hyperbole, or literally your debt is that much?

My brother's ivy league tuition was subsidized based on income, and my dad still paid over $300k over four years. Though that did include housing as well.

Re: DevDegree: Work at Shopify and get a free CS degree in parallel

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Post by fataliss »

baron816 wrote: post #23

Says $160,000 salary. I’m guessing that’s total over the 4 years, so $40k CAD per year. Still a great deal.

It says salary, tuition & vacation. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's a $160k estimation for the whole thing for the 4 years! But yeah, either way, better than $60k/y in tuition you end up owing!

Re: DevDegree: Work at Shopify and get a free CS degree in parallel

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Post by dwohnitmok »

xenihn wrote: post #28
chrisseaton wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> now still 100's of thousands in debt Is that hyperbole, or literally your debt is that much?

My brother's ivy league tuition was subsidized based on income, and my dad still paid over $300k over four years. Though that did include housing as well.

That seems really high. The entirely unsubsidized tuition rate for Ivies is between 45-50k per year. With room and board and all other school related fees that usually rises to 65-70k per year.

That is entirely without subsidy. It leaves out other living expenses that can come with various club activities and other activities of that nature. But 300k would leave about 5k per year for other incidentals. Again this is entirely unsubsidized.

The only other factor here is summer breaks, but those are usually filled in by paid internships/research positions at Ivy schools.

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