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Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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I'm surprised this was mentioned at all. There's even newer research that basically shows any amount of alcohol regularly is bad for you.

The idea that any amount of alcohol is bad for you is about as surprising of a concept to me as vaping actually being bad for you. Drinking poison or filling your lungs with anything that isn't air is not healthy.

Presumably you are not including any mental benefits? Or consider 'stress' of any sorts as a non-health issue?

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Surprising: one of the healthy habits mentioned is drinking alcohol only in moderation (defined in this study as just under 2 units for women and 4 units for men daily) . If I drank any alcohol on a daily basis, I would be scared that it would go downhill from there. Habits are hard to change, so better do not pick up bad ones at all. I'm convinced that just avoiding to do stupid things is half the battle already.

no. you need to start drinking 4 units per day if you want to live longer /s

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Surprising: one of the healthy habits mentioned is drinking alcohol only in moderation (defined in this study as just under 2 units for women and 4 units for men daily) . If I drank any alcohol on a daily basis, I would be scared that it would go downhill from there. Habits are hard to change, so better do not pick up bad ones at all. I'm convinced that just avoiding to do stupid things is half the battle already.

That one doesn't make any sense to me. Alcohol is basically poison. Perhaps small amounts of it won't do any harm to you, but how could it possibly have a positive effect on your health?

one the upstream replies is telling: it says, basically, you might hang out and socialize if you get a drink after work, whereas it'd be "healthier" to just eat a salad or something and go to bed early; presumably, he'd forsake any potential social stuff for all of that healthy stuff.

it may be that the act of consuming alcohol is a confounding variable in the underlying correlation of social interaction/un-stressing or something.

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Surprising: one of the healthy habits mentioned is drinking alcohol only in moderation (defined in this study as just under 2 units for women and 4 units for men daily) . If I drank any alcohol on a daily basis, I would be scared that it would go downhill from there. Habits are hard to change, so better do not pick up bad ones at all. I'm convinced that just avoiding to do stupid things is half the battle already.

That one doesn't make any sense to me. Alcohol is basically poison. Perhaps small amounts of it won't do any harm to you, but how could it possibly have a positive effect on your health?

Well, historically it did by sterilizing water. Also degrading alcohol gives you energy and may make you socialize more which might be good for your mental health. Directly benefitial? Probably not.

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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This is one of the best general-audience presentations of a study I've seen. The "What kind of research was this?" section, with a quick explainer on cohort studies, is by itself a lot more context than many media outlets offer, and the other sections add up to an accessible primer on how this type of study is performed, no scientific background required. Excellent science communication from the NHS.

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The key word is definitely "only".

I don't agree. Even if you "only" drank in moderation forever and never drank too much for your liver to deal with it isn't helping anything. At the absolute best it simply isn't hurting anything. Which I'm really not convinced that is even true.

I didn’t read that advice to mean you should drink daily. Rather that if you do drink, it should be limited to a certain amount per day.

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Living a long and healthy life is simple, but it isn't easy.

Which is to say almost everybody knows this, very few people live it. The toughest battle isn't yet again telling people that 1+1=2, but rather figuring out ways to make it more accessible to people (read: cheap, low time commitment) and more sustainable as a lifestyle.

That's why ideas like HIIT[0] and IM[1] are interesting, not because they're superior to getting doctor recommended levels of exercise and eating the recommended nutrition but because people actually do them and stick to them, and they're "less bad" then doing nothing.

"Perfect is the enemy of good" is the enemy of people's health too, and the medical profession obsessed over what the Greek God tier lifestyle should look like while ignoring "easy wins."

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_traini...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Surprising: one of the healthy habits mentioned is drinking alcohol only in moderation (defined in this study as just under 2 units for women and 4 units for men daily) . If I drank any alcohol on a daily basis, I would be scared that it would go downhill from there. Habits are hard to change, so better do not pick up bad ones at all. I'm convinced that just avoiding to do stupid things is half the battle already.

I'm surprised this was mentioned at all. There's even newer research that basically shows any amount of alcohol regularly is bad for you.

That's mighty convincing evidence you have right there.

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Surprising: one of the healthy habits mentioned is drinking alcohol only in moderation (defined in this study as just under 2 units for women and 4 units for men daily) . If I drank any alcohol on a daily basis, I would be scared that it would go downhill from there. Habits are hard to change, so better do not pick up bad ones at all. I'm convinced that just avoiding to do stupid things is half the battle already.

Also have to factor in the opportunity cost of drinking...going for a drink after work instead of the gym? What comes next? Bar food with your beer and maybe a pizza? I'd rather have the work out, good meal, hydrate, and get good sleep. It's obvious that good habits snowball into more good habits, while bad habits snowball into more bad habits.

haha, this reads like some abstinence only sex education argument or something. don't let that one beer turn in to a good time!

i think it's funny that having a good (if not optimally healthy) time would be so ridiculed, but maybe that's just me. FWIW i know a lot of people who work out at 4:30am in order to gain that time for after work social activities which often include alcohol, so not mutually exclusive.

Re: Healthy habits add up to 10 disease-free years to your life, study reveals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised this was mentioned at all. There's even newer research that basically shows any amount of alcohol regularly is bad for you.

The idea that any amount of alcohol is bad for you is about as surprising of a concept to me as vaping actually being bad for you. Drinking poison or filling your lungs with anything that isn't air is not healthy.

"What can we say? We know alcohol's a toxin. We'll never believe alcohol can be good for you. This is America, for chrissake! We're willing to die for our true beliefs!" https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/addiction-in-society...
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