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Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by slg »

>I don't think private companies should be making so many important decisions that touch on fundamental democratic values... As long as our governments are seen as legitimate, rules established through a democratic process could add more legitimacy and trust than rules defined by companies alone.

This is a big chicken and egg problem. Mark wants the government to set the rules but what happens when Facebook doesn't make the rules, people are elected through questionable means (notice he used the phrase 'seen as legitimate'), and those people don't want to crack down on Facebook because an unregulated Facebook is a key to them remaining in power. There is a feedback loop there that Facebook could shutoff with a single decision from Mark. It is much harder to fix that problem through government action.

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Post by xiphias2 »

,,Today, many important institutions in our society still aren't doing enough to address the issues younger generations face -- from climate change to runaway costs of education, housing and healthcare. ''

Maybe there are ways to improve the quality of discussions _within_ Facebook to help solve these problems. It works for Hacker News, so I don't think it would be impossible. Of course indirect revenue from oil companies would decrease somewhat, but a balance should be found.

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Post by redis_mlc »

dvduval wrote: post #4

Since I am self taught Mandarin, I thought it was novel when he did too, and I saw his humility when he tried to speak it. Now he is painful to read for me. First, he lost my trust. Second, it's esoteric, nothing very concrete. Perhaps our ability to be anywhere through augmented reality sounds interesting, but not all that novel.

> I thought it was novel when he did too

He thought learning Mandarin would help him conquer China. lol.

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Post by truebosko »

jimbob45 wrote: post #23

Question: would VR be adopted en masse if it dropped permanently in price by 70% tomorrow?

Nope. Not enough implementations right now outside of quirky demos or gaming. Of course see initial adoption by excited crowd but not mass market.

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Post by flattone »

Cookingboy wrote: post #13
jonstewart wrote: post #3

I think antitrust enforcement and privacy legislation will be important in the next decade.

I honestly don't think privacy legislation would make much headway, simply for the reason that vast majority of people outside of the HackerNews crowd don't care about it. When people say they care about privacy, most of the time they mean they care about anonymity, as in privacy from people who knows them personally. They don't want their internet search history to be known by friends or family or coworkers, but the…

They might not but being concerned with that type of a thing comes with a deeper more committed understanding of why we might want to care about it can you take away the government is accountable for a lot of layers of our existence which we might not daily care about but are absolutely critical

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Post by fourstar »

xiphias2 wrote: post #22

,,Today, many important institutions in our society still aren't doing enough to address the issues younger generations face -- from climate change to runaway costs of education, housing and healthcare. '' Maybe there are ways to improve the quality of discussions _within_ Facebook to help solve these problems. It works for Hacker News, so I don't think it would be impossible. Of course indirect revenue from oil comp…

HN is essentially a hive mind cult. Look at my join date. At some point, you could dissent with your own opinion. Nowadays it’s downvotes and outrage.

Shields up — ready for the downvotes.

Not a great model for FB to follow. You’ll start getting DMs from people like “dang” telling you to behave, LOL.

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Post by advaita »

Cookingboy wrote: post #13
jonstewart wrote: post #3

I think antitrust enforcement and privacy legislation will be important in the next decade.

I honestly don't think privacy legislation would make much headway, simply for the reason that vast majority of people outside of the HackerNews crowd don't care about it. When people say they care about privacy, most of the time they mean they care about anonymity, as in privacy from people who knows them personally. They don't want their internet search history to be known by friends or family or coworkers, but the…

This, exactly this. I have been trying to convert a bunch of my non-tech social network to start using privacy respecting services (DDG/Signal/Tutanota primarily) and have seen more of apathy than pushback. People seem to have no qualms about their search history/messaging being analyzed/indexed/used for targeting as long as they can keep using those services free.

Re: Things that I think will be important in the next decade

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Post by briandear »

awb wrote: post #12

> I don't think private companies should be making so many important decisions that touch on fundamental democratic values. > One way to address this is through regulation. > I've called for new regulation in these areas and over the next decade I hope we get clearer rules for the internet. Surprising to hear a near-monopoly call for regulation. > Another and perhaps even better way to address this is by establishing…

Not to be confrontational, but what is Facebook’s monopoly? I don’t use it or any of their other products and I’m not missing anything. We could say monopoly of social, but then there is Twitter et al, for messaging, I have iMessage and email, for photos, I can email or iMessage them. For online advertising, there is Google and others, for offline ads, there is print and TV. I’m not getting what Facebook’s monopoly is..

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Post by hinkley »

JohnFen wrote: post #16
awb wrote: post #12

> I don't think private companies should be making so many important decisions that touch on fundamental democratic values. > One way to address this is through regulation. > I've called for new regulation in these areas and over the next decade I hope we get clearer rules for the internet. Surprising to hear a near-monopoly call for regulation. > Another and perhaps even better way to address this is by establishing…

> Surprising to hear a near-monopoly advocate for regulation. Not really. When a company reaches a certain level of dominance, government regulation is a good thing because it increases the cost of entry to the market, so it acts as a kind of moat for the established players.

Especially if they can get any of the rules to be as byzantine as their current internal processes.
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