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Psilocybin found safe for consumption in largest ever controlled study

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Re: Psilocybin found safe for consumption in largest ever controlled study

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Post by ianai »

mothsonasloth wrote: post #17

I'm gonna sound really cliched but I have become really fascinated with Psychedelics thanks to the Joe Rogan podcast. I wouldn't say I am depressed but as someone who doesn't drink, smoke, drugs or take caffeine. I really want to try them. The fact that mushrooms have been used by shamans all around the world since neolithic times, is truly fascinating. I hope to try them at some point although at the moment I have b…

I’d steer you toward kava kava as a legal and otc way to change your mind and emotions for the better or more open. Also St. John’s wort.

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Post by kasperni »

mikelyons wrote: post #14
kasperni wrote: post #12

Now that mainstream club drugs such as MDMA, Ketamine, and LSD/Magic Mushrooms are finding their way into therapeutic usage. I'm wondering if and how governments will change the current narrative about "all drugs are bad for you". Edit: I'm not advocating recreational drug usage. Just saying, that if mum is on magic mushrooms and studies like these have established safety dosage and clear therapeutic benefits. You ca…

MDMA, Ketamine and LSD sure, but mushrooms have been in use for spirituality far longer than mainstream clubs have even been a concept.

Right, but they haven't been classified as an illegal drug in most countries until recently.

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Post by kasperni »

vmchale wrote: post #18
kasperni wrote: post #12

Now that mainstream club drugs such as MDMA, Ketamine, and LSD/Magic Mushrooms are finding their way into therapeutic usage. I'm wondering if and how governments will change the current narrative about "all drugs are bad for you". Edit: I'm not advocating recreational drug usage. Just saying, that if mum is on magic mushrooms and studies like these have established safety dosage and clear therapeutic benefits. You ca…

I don't think Psilocybin mushrooms or LSD are used as a club drug.

I think it depends on the definition, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_drug includes them

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Post by globular-toast »

trekrich wrote: post #20
kasperni wrote: post #12

Now that mainstream club drugs such as MDMA, Ketamine, and LSD/Magic Mushrooms are finding their way into therapeutic usage. I'm wondering if and how governments will change the current narrative about "all drugs are bad for you". Edit: I'm not advocating recreational drug usage. Just saying, that if mum is on magic mushrooms and studies like these have established safety dosage and clear therapeutic benefits. You ca…

They wont change it, as they will be paid lots of lobbying money to not change it.

Yes. Unlike alcohol, there is very little money in those drugs. Most of them aren't even addictive!

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Post by r00fus »

ianai wrote: post #21
mothsonasloth wrote: post #17

I'm gonna sound really cliched but I have become really fascinated with Psychedelics thanks to the Joe Rogan podcast. I wouldn't say I am depressed but as someone who doesn't drink, smoke, drugs or take caffeine. I really want to try them. The fact that mushrooms have been used by shamans all around the world since neolithic times, is truly fascinating. I hope to try them at some point although at the moment I have b…

I’d steer you toward kava kava as a legal and otc way to change your mind and emotions for the better or more open. Also St. John’s wort.

What source would you recommend? I've tried some name-brand kava tea and it didn't seem to do much.

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Post by iseedumbpeople »

Oh please this is pure propaganda. Even the great Terrance McKenna had to stop doing shrooms later in life because a bad trip fucked him up so badly. The potential for misuse and serious psychological dissociation is huge for anyone who is depressed and abusee psilocybin. Micro dosing and/orhaving a few wondrous trips is great if you come at it with a good headspace. Use it as a crutch after a break up or while surrounded by toxic people and you are most likely in for a very bad time that many may not be equipped to deal wih.

Re: Psilocybin found safe for consumption in largest ever controlled study

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Post by yarg »

ergothus wrote: post #6
sawyerjhood wrote: post #2

I'm personally excited to see what sorts of new treatments will come out of using psychedelics medically. I've always been on the skeptical side of medical marijuana usage in all but the most extreme cases, but I have a feeling that LSD and psilocybin can really provide mental turning points and help people break out of depression.

> I've always been on the skeptical side of medical marijuana usage in all but the most extreme cases, Really? I've always found the milder claims fairly believable (fighting nausea or chronic low level pain relief). As an anecdote, I can attest to dealing with kidney stone pain well (rather than stopping the pain it reduced how much I noticed it) and it ended up more effective and felt less dangerous than the opiods…

The treatment of Dravet syndrome with CBD seems to have genuine damned near miraculous results.

And yes, the pain relief is very real.

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Post by derefr »

ergothus wrote: post #6
sawyerjhood wrote: post #2

I'm personally excited to see what sorts of new treatments will come out of using psychedelics medically. I've always been on the skeptical side of medical marijuana usage in all but the most extreme cases, but I have a feeling that LSD and psilocybin can really provide mental turning points and help people break out of depression.

> I've always been on the skeptical side of medical marijuana usage in all but the most extreme cases, Really? I've always found the milder claims fairly believable (fighting nausea or chronic low level pain relief). As an anecdote, I can attest to dealing with kidney stone pain well (rather than stopping the pain it reduced how much I noticed it) and it ended up more effective and felt less dangerous than the opiods…

Personally, I'm a skeptic that 1. CBD+THC offers any additional medical† benefits over CBD used alone; 2. that it makes any medical sense to prescribe a (non-dose-controllable) plant over a pill, or at the very least an extract with tested dosage. I'm not skeptical of the medical benefits of (some of) the compounds in marijuana; I'm just a skeptic of prescribing marijuana itself as a way of delivering those compounds. It's like prescribing willow bark for a headache when aspirin exists.

† For what it's being prescribed for, I mean—pain, nausea, anxiety, etc. THC, in its function as a psychedelic, may function as a treatment for certain psychiatric disorders (i.e. for much the same purpose LSD/MDMA/etc. are being investigated for.) But nobody's prescribing medical marijuana for this use-case right now; they're prescribing it for things where the presence of THC seems pretty irrelevant to the goal.

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Post by tempsy »

kasperni wrote: post #12

Now that mainstream club drugs such as MDMA, Ketamine, and LSD/Magic Mushrooms are finding their way into therapeutic usage. I'm wondering if and how governments will change the current narrative about "all drugs are bad for you". Edit: I'm not advocating recreational drug usage. Just saying, that if mum is on magic mushrooms and studies like these have established safety dosage and clear therapeutic benefits. You ca…

Uhh would definitely never recommend taking LSD or shrooms to go clubbing.
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