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Move to the Big City (2018)

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Re: Move to the Big City (2018)

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Post by mgarfias »

bradlys wrote: post #17
mgarfias wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m in western rural oregon, live on acreage in the woods. Also have 1gbps symmetric unmetered static ip’d internet. What has me wanting to move away is the insane politics in salem, caused by too many people in Portland outnumbering the rest of the state.

Where in Western rural Oregon has this? I figured most people in the rural parts were still relying on satelite internet like they were when I lived there. Maybe cable internet in some of the developed suburbs.

There are multiple areas with telephone co-ops that have dropped fiber in the ground.

For instance molalla, stayton, scio all have fiber networks.

Re: Move to the Big City (2018)

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Post by discordance »

I work 90% remote at the moment, and the only thing stopping me from moving to a smaller town is the fear of not having a community or friends nearby.

It’s so important to have in person human contact, especially with remote work, that Montana or wherever will always be a dream. Would love some ideas on how to solve this if anyone has any!

Re: Move to the Big City (2018)

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Post by whoisjuan »

flatline wrote: post #20
whoisjuan wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Derek Sivers is the founder of CD Baby which is one of the largest music licensing companies. He is talking about big cities in the context of his industry which is Music and Entertainment.

Why not Nashville? Austin?

He did mention Nashville, I think.

Re: Move to the Big City (2018)

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Post by koboll »

jborichevskiy wrote: post #6

This stood out: > So why do I hate to admit this? > Because I love how the internet has made it possible for anyone to get successful, anywhere. I love the idea of living in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by nature, yet being connected to the world. > But still, when I look at the facts, it’s impossible to deny. Living in the big city, and being where everything is happening, will help your career the most. Being…

The missing piece probably isn't tools to make remote work better, but whatever's necessary to obsolete in-person networking.

The article (strangely) doesn't say this directly, but it alludes to it ("I met so many wonderful kindreds...", etc).

Re: Move to the Big City (2018)

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Post by Antoninus »

A year ago, I moved to the suburbs of Saigon from NY to work remotely. My cost of living is 1000usdI'm a bit torn as I consider myself a mid-level developer at 7 years of experience. At the moment, I'm looking to relocate anywhere to be surrounded with senior engineers who can push me to the next level.

With that being said, I'll probably go back to the remote life when I feel more comfortable with my skills.

Re: Move to the Big City (2018)

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Post by golemiprague »

sjroot wrote: post #7
jborichevskiy wrote: post #6

This stood out: > So why do I hate to admit this? > Because I love how the internet has made it possible for anyone to get successful, anywhere. I love the idea of living in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by nature, yet being connected to the world. > But still, when I look at the facts, it’s impossible to deny. Living in the big city, and being where everything is happening, will help your career the most. Being…

Are you me? Also in NYC and also dream of a quiet place in Montana. My team has actually had discussions about Montana specifically. What is it about Montana?

It's mostly white, NYC people are used to segregation of blacks on their own neighbourhoods and they want to keep it that way. They will miss the faux diversity during the day when the blacks venture into other neighbourhoods for work but it is a small price to pay. Worst case they will demand Montana to have more diversity which means ruining working class poor people life while segregating their own places exactly the same way they do it in NYC.

Re: Move to the Big City (2018)

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Post by notadoc »

jborichevskiy wrote: post #6

This stood out: > So why do I hate to admit this? > Because I love how the internet has made it possible for anyone to get successful, anywhere. I love the idea of living in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by nature, yet being connected to the world. > But still, when I look at the facts, it’s impossible to deny. Living in the big city, and being where everything is happening, will help your career the most. Being…

> Ideally I think I'd want a remote cabin in Montana with a high speed internet connection

That's a fantasy unless you consider 3mbps DSL to be 'high speed'.

And that's not even remote, that's often the highest speed available not even an hour outside of many major US cities out west.

Re: Move to the Big City (2018)

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Post by screye »

jborichevskiy wrote: post #6

This stood out: > So why do I hate to admit this? > Because I love how the internet has made it possible for anyone to get successful, anywhere. I love the idea of living in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by nature, yet being connected to the world. > But still, when I look at the facts, it’s impossible to deny. Living in the big city, and being where everything is happening, will help your career the most. Being…

> But it's a shame remote work isn't quite at that level to completely make physical location irrelevant. Maybe someday

A lot of the big decisions happen between meetings in the corridors.

Working at a satellite location, despite being onsite, is also considered harmful to your career.

It is the fact that the people who make decisions are not physically near enough for everything that happens between the bits of work. Those are the things that have historically mattered far more in career growth.

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