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Re: Guerilla Gardening (2015)

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Post by 40four »

pvaldes wrote: post #16

Is essential that the people doing this, either knows what is seeding, with name and surname, or stop doing it. Right now. Invasive species are not a joke. Naive people could end doing a lot of damage after seeing a video from a project in the other coin of the planet. I can spot at least one invasive species in the images that must not be used in some parts of US, for example.

Hey, fair enough, spreading invasive species is bad. But how exactly do you imagine something like that happening?

In general, folks are going to buy plants @ Lowe’s/ Home Depot or their local nurseries. It’s not that easy to gain access to plants that are not compatible with your native biome.

I don’t think the chances are very high of someone buying seeds from a foreign seed company, germinating them at home, and planting a large scale public project like this.

Re: Guerilla Gardening (2015)

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Post by zxexz »

pvaldes wrote: post #16

Is essential that the people doing this, either knows what is seeding, with name and surname, or stop doing it. Right now. Invasive species are not a joke. Naive people could end doing a lot of damage after seeing a video from a project in the other coin of the planet. I can spot at least one invasive species in the images that must not be used in some parts of US, for example.

As somebody who has (and continues to) partook in their fair share of "guerilla" gardening, and who has seen many parts of their local ecosystems decimated by invasive species, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment. However, I do think perhaps if you're making such powerful statement, you shouldn't perhaps go into more detail, and maybe spout some wisdom as to how people can avoid introducing said invasive species, etc?

Also, on another note - would you mind detailing which potentially invasive species you see in the photos, and in which regions it may be considered as such? I didn't see anything I noticed as to be particularly for my region.

Re: Guerilla Gardening (2015)

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Post by 40four »

inamberclad wrote: post #15
kibwen wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, you, the person reading this comment thread who just skimmed over the above comment without giving the video link a second thought. I'm telling you, go back and watch the video, or any other video on Tony Santoro's channel. The man is a legend who deserves more press. He absolutely embodies the hacker ethos, if in his own unique way. Autodidactic, anti-authoritarian, fiercely intelligent, sharply witty and indef…

Seconded, and his series in the Atacama is incredible. Seriously, he's incredible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUOejqhaeZI

Well. You guys sold me. I am not aware of Mr Santoro, but now I am very interested ! :)

Re: Guerilla Gardening (2015)

#25

Post by whyenot »

shagie wrote: post #19

Consider instead / also the Guerrilla Grafters of San Francisco: http://www.guerrillagrafters.org News articles: * https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/04/07/150142001/gu... * https://hoodline.com/2015/12/guerrilla-grafters-quietly-grow... * http://www.guerrillagrafters.org/in-the-news/

No offense to this group, I'm sure they have the best intentions, but how many people would want to eat fruit from a street tree in a major city? For that matter, how much of that fruit will actually survive to the point where it is fully ripe and not be eaten first by rats and squirrels? My experience from downtown San Jose is that with the exception of citrus, very little.

Re: Guerilla Gardening (2015)

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Post by tzs »

40four wrote: post #21
pvaldes wrote: post #16

Is essential that the people doing this, either knows what is seeding, with name and surname, or stop doing it. Right now. Invasive species are not a joke. Naive people could end doing a lot of damage after seeing a video from a project in the other coin of the planet. I can spot at least one invasive species in the images that must not be used in some parts of US, for example.

Hey, fair enough, spreading invasive species is bad. But how exactly do you imagine something like that happening? In general, folks are going to buy plants @ Lowe’s/ Home Depot or their local nurseries. It’s not that easy to gain access to plants that are not compatible with your native biome. I don’t think the chances are very high of someone buying seeds from a foreign seed company, germinating them at home, and p…

That's true for the case of someone introducing an invasive species that is new to the region. But what about someone further spreading an invasive species that is already there?

My yard, for example, contains a mix of native plants and invasive plants. Some of the invasive plants produce pretty flowers, and if I hadn't looked them up it would not have even occurred to me that they were not native.

I could easily imagine someone with such an invasive but pretty plant in their own garden purposefully spreading it, not realizing that it is not native and the place they spread it had until then only native plants.

Re: Guerilla Gardening (2015)

#27

Post by intrepidhero »

40four wrote: post #21
pvaldes wrote: post #16

Is essential that the people doing this, either knows what is seeding, with name and surname, or stop doing it. Right now. Invasive species are not a joke. Naive people could end doing a lot of damage after seeing a video from a project in the other coin of the planet. I can spot at least one invasive species in the images that must not be used in some parts of US, for example.

Hey, fair enough, spreading invasive species is bad. But how exactly do you imagine something like that happening? In general, folks are going to buy plants @ Lowe’s/ Home Depot or their local nurseries. It’s not that easy to gain access to plants that are not compatible with your native biome. I don’t think the chances are very high of someone buying seeds from a foreign seed company, germinating them at home, and p…

Actually it's super easy. Alot of those nice decorative plants at the big box store, especially when buying "wild flower seed" are not native, and highly invasive.

Re: Guerilla Gardening (2015)

#28

Post by Iwan-Zotow »

shagie wrote: post #19

Consider instead / also the Guerrilla Grafters of San Francisco: http://www.guerrillagrafters.org News articles: * https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/04/07/150142001/gu... * https://hoodline.com/2015/12/guerrilla-grafters-quietly-grow... * http://www.guerrillagrafters.org/in-the-news/

And there are a log of Guerrilla Fertilizers on the streets of SF as well

Re: Guerilla Gardening (2015)

#29

Post by intrepidhero »

fit2rule wrote: post #10

I've seed bombed all over LA, getting things growing in nearly unreachable spots that seem to be ignored by civic workers .. there is no greater feeling than coming back a few months later and seeing a thriving collection of plants where once there was a dusty patch of ignored dirt. Key thing though, is to use native plants and not get too invasive with the seed mix. For this, I suggest folks who want to do the same…

And/or check with your local extension service.

Re: Guerilla Gardening (2015)

#30

Post by mikekchar »

zxexz wrote: post #22
pvaldes wrote: post #16

Is essential that the people doing this, either knows what is seeding, with name and surname, or stop doing it. Right now. Invasive species are not a joke. Naive people could end doing a lot of damage after seeing a video from a project in the other coin of the planet. I can spot at least one invasive species in the images that must not be used in some parts of US, for example.

As somebody who has (and continues to) partook in their fair share of "guerilla" gardening, and who has seen many parts of their local ecosystems decimated by invasive species, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment. However, I do think perhaps if you're making such powerful statement, you shouldn't perhaps go into more detail, and maybe spout some wisdom as to how people can avoid introducing said invasive speci…

I'm guessing it's the California Poppy picture, which according to USDA "can be weedy or invasive according to the authoritative sources noted below" (the source being [0]). In fact it is interesting that one of the commenters in other threads claimed to intentionally plan California Poppies wherever they go. They grow wild where I live in Japan, so it clearly is somewhat invasive, but I'm not sure what kind of damage (if any) they do to the environment.

I have to admit to being caught out by this myself. My wife and I lived in the UK for a few years and when we came back home to Japan, we collected seed from the garden to remind us of England. It's a stupid thing to do, but very easy. I think being aware of what species are local to you area and collecting those local seeds is probably a good way to stay safe.

[0] - http://www.tneppc.org/TNEPPC2004PlantList-8x11.pdf

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