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Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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Debian 6.0 (Squeeze) has been released! http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/ Use torrents for download the isos, please. You can find the seeds under every architecture in the directories beginning with bt- For instance: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/ And keep seeding ’til you’re bleeding ^_^ Edit to add this new Debian-installer page (within a brand new design site): http://www.debian.o…

Does your username have anything to do with Debian?

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

#22
post #12

Debian and Arch are my two favorite Linux distributions. If only Debian distributed a version compiled for an i686 also. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full. Arch is pretty awesome in that field, but I would be wary of running it on production servers. For me Debian testing has been the best compromise, a…

> If only Debian also distributed a version compiled for an i686 and x86-64. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full. Um, I think they do have a x64 version... $ cat /etc/debian_version 6.0 $ file /bin/bash /bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically link ed (uses shared libs),…

You lucky 64-bit people:

  * cat /etc/debian_version
  6.0
  * file /bin/bash
  /bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped
  * file /lib/libc-2.11.2.so 
 /lib/libc-2.11.2.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped
  * grep name /proc/cpuinfo 
  model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
  *
This used to bother me, but now that a Pentium 4 seems nearly as archaic as an 80386, I guess it's not so much of an issue.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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post #2

Good to see my favorite distro moving forward! I only wish they could have managed to ship Perl 5.12 rather than 5.10.

I love debian too, but I don't understand why they're so far behind. OpenSSL in squeeze is v. 0.9.8o-4? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/openssl C'mon, guys, the latest current OpenSSL is already at v. 1.2.2 This is why I'm switching to ubuntu.

That seems like a dumb reason to switch to Ubuntu. I'm unaware of any current software that doesn't work fine linked against the OpenSSL version in Debian. SSL/TLS is just not a rapidly moving target, and this version is still actively maintained.

I reckon I prefer stability and predictability over modernity in my encryption and signing libraries.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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Debian's website also received an upgrade[1]: > On the occasion of the release of Debian 6.0 Squeeze, the Debian website team is pleased to publish a new design for Debian's web presence. After roughly 13 years with nearly the same design, the layout and design of many of the websites run by Debian changed together with today's release of Debian Squeeze. Debian's main website and its wiki, lists archive, blog aggrega…

I don't have enough expertise in design to articulate why, but it seems to fall quite short of `cleaner and more modern.' Well, maybe it is a bit less '90s than the previous design, but I'd hardly call it clean and modern. The logo off to the left of the banner is odd, the different fonts and sizes aren't pleasing together, the columns of links seem like something you'd see at the bottom of a page rather than in the middle -- I could go on.

Sorry to call someone's baby ugly. Is it just me?

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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Debian's website also received an upgrade[1]: > On the occasion of the release of Debian 6.0 Squeeze, the Debian website team is pleased to publish a new design for Debian's web presence. After roughly 13 years with nearly the same design, the layout and design of many of the websites run by Debian changed together with today's release of Debian Squeeze. Debian's main website and its wiki, lists archive, blog aggrega…

I don't have enough expertise in design to articulate why, but it seems to fall quite short of `cleaner and more modern.' Well, maybe it is a bit less '90s than the previous design, but I'd hardly call it clean and modern. The logo off to the left of the banner is odd, the different fonts and sizes aren't pleasing together, the columns of links seem like something you'd see at the bottom of a page rather than in the…

I wouldn't call it `cleaner and more modern' either but I really don't care. The best thing in Debian is that you don't have to visit their website often (or at all), because everything works in it, and everything works from command line.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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post #2

Good to see my favorite distro moving forward! I only wish they could have managed to ship Perl 5.12 rather than 5.10.

You can get it from the experimental repo.

http://packages.debian.org/experimental/perl

More info on it: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love debian too, but I don't understand why they're so far behind. OpenSSL in squeeze is v. 0.9.8o-4? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/openssl C'mon, guys, the latest current OpenSSL is already at v. 1.2.2 This is why I'm switching to ubuntu.

Out of curiosity, which feature from 1.2.2 do you need that 0.9.8 doesn't have?

PCI compliance audits require at least v. 1.0.0 of OpenSSL.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

#29
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, which feature from 1.2.2 do you need that 0.9.8 doesn't have?

PCI compliance audits require at least v. 1.0.0 of OpenSSL.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Seems like a flaw in the PCI requirements to me, do they really demand the "latest" version instead of the stable, time-tested one?

It certainly can't be in the spirit of these audits to encourage people to move from Debian stable to a distro that's based on Debian unstable...

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love debian too, but I don't understand why they're so far behind. OpenSSL in squeeze is v. 0.9.8o-4? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/openssl C'mon, guys, the latest current OpenSSL is already at v. 1.2.2 This is why I'm switching to ubuntu.

What Debian released is an stable distribution that is going to be maintained for the next 3 or 4 years. It is better to release something stable and well tested than bleeding edge stuff. Many people don't get Debian. This is a released aimed for servers and stable workstations. If you want or need bleeding edge stuff you can use Debian testing/unstable or Ubuntu as you suggested.

There also wasn't a lot of time before the freeze--- OpenSSL 1.0.0 was released on March 29, and the Debian "Squeeze" freeze was August 6. Dropping in a new version of OpenSSL four months before the freeze wasn't considered prudent. Even if OpenSSL itself could be tested in that time and considered rock-solid (probably possible), a lot of different packages depend on / link with OpenSSL, and linking them with a new version might expose subtle bugs or incompatibilities in those apps, which you'd want some time to notice/debug/fix, especially since it might require waiting on upstream developers to debug/fix things in their apps.

Post-release, OpenSSL 1.0.0 will now be migrated to unstable, and then any problems that causes or exposes can be found and fixed on a more generous schedule.

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