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Re: Bing search results showing up in Google

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We need to get over this partisan "gotcha journalism". No one really benefits from everyone making low content blog posts with any random accusations that make their side 'right' (which just happens to be ad hominem anyways).

Re: Bing search results showing up in Google

#22
Microsoft is way out of line. Google figures out what content is good by crawling every page and doing the leg work, and Bing copies Google data and displays what google displays.

Google proved it with the bing sting. there is absolutly NO reason why bing should have linked to those documents, other than that they copied off of Google's exam paper.

When students do this, it is called plagiarizing. The smoke getting thrown by MS is just to distract and divert while they scramble to hide what they did.

Re: Bing search results showing up in Google

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post #22

Microsoft is way out of line. Google figures out what content is good by crawling every page and doing the leg work, and Bing copies Google data and displays what google displays. Google proved it with the bing sting. there is absolutly NO reason why bing should have linked to those documents, other than that they copied off of Google's exam paper. When students do this, it is called plagiarizing. The smoke getting t…

Google proved it with the bing sting

They didn't prove anything. Every experiment needs a control. Where's Google's?

Re: Bing search results showing up in Google

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robots.txt applies to the source of the links, not the target. So if, say, http://www.paulgraham.com/ links to http://m.bing.com/search , then http://m.bing.com/robots.txt does not apply to that. EDIT: If you think this is wrong, please explain it instead of just downvoting me, because I think it is pretty unfair that I lose karma for explaining my interpretation.

It just means a crawler cannot retrieve the page; in other words, a crawler cannot GET a URL for whom there's an exclusion pattern in robots.txt .

Re: Bing search results showing up in Google

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post #22

Microsoft is way out of line. Google figures out what content is good by crawling every page and doing the leg work, and Bing copies Google data and displays what google displays. Google proved it with the bing sting. there is absolutly NO reason why bing should have linked to those documents, other than that they copied off of Google's exam paper. When students do this, it is called plagiarizing. The smoke getting t…

Google proved it with the bing sting They didn't prove anything. Every experiment needs a control. Where's Google's?

"Control" what? Where's the control for "gravity pulled the apple down" ?

It's called an existential proof. If you want to prove that a black swan exists, all you need is 1 example of a black swan.

Re: Bing search results showing up in Google

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post #22

Microsoft is way out of line. Google figures out what content is good by crawling every page and doing the leg work, and Bing copies Google data and displays what google displays. Google proved it with the bing sting. there is absolutly NO reason why bing should have linked to those documents, other than that they copied off of Google's exam paper. When students do this, it is called plagiarizing. The smoke getting t…

They proved that Microsoft uses clickstream data to rank websites, and in 7% of manufactured cases that's all the data they have?

I think this is exactly as petty and silly as last week's news, and now they get to spend a week explaining how this occurred and that they do obey robots.txt.

Re: Bing search results showing up in Google

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post #15

> never mind that Bing only used its toolbar as a url discovery device, not to 'copy search results' Yeah, they just happened to discover high quality urls on google. What are the chances?

URL discovery is one thing; ranking that discovered URL at number 1 without any other signals is another. I don't think anyone cares that much about how Bing does URL discovery (unless, of course, the URL is supposed to be private and exchanged via email). Given that they have a new URL, what made them rank it #1?

Re: Bing search results showing up in Google

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post #22

Microsoft is way out of line. Google figures out what content is good by crawling every page and doing the leg work, and Bing copies Google data and displays what google displays. Google proved it with the bing sting. there is absolutly NO reason why bing should have linked to those documents, other than that they copied off of Google's exam paper. When students do this, it is called plagiarizing. The smoke getting t…

> there is absolutly NO reason why bing should have linked to those documents

There is absolutely a reason. A user queried for a string, then followed a link. Biasing Bing's search results towards the followed links is a signal that improves their search.

> When students do this, it is called plagiarizing. The smoke getting thrown by MS is just to distract and divert while they scramble to hide what they did.

When I took exams, I wasn't allowed to consult with fellow students, read the internet, or open a textbook. My life as a developer would certainly be a lot different if I wasn't able to do any of those things now because it was "cheating" back when I was in school. It's an awful analogy and, as you've regurgitated it here, seems to be an effective smokescreen on Google's end.

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