Motorola Cliq XT Won’t Get Android 2.1 Upgrade • Hacker News Board

Re: Motorola Cliq XT Won’t Get Android 2.1 Upgrade

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Post by veidr » Fri, Feb 04, 2011, 2:29 AM UTC

Gruber is good at this kind of snark, but I think his point backfires in this case.

Sure, executing five command line operations and rooting your phone is more of a pain in the ass than doing nothing. But if I was stuck using a Cliq XT as my daily phone (certainly would never happen, but let's just suppose), then I really would be sitting there saying, in earnest and without irony, "Well, luckily Android is 'open' and I can fix this."

But I'm not actually sure if rooting and upgrading your Cliq XT is really that easy, or if Gruber is just taking Andy Rubin's tweet out of context to make today's snarky little if-technologically-handicapped-people-can't-understand-it-then-it-sucks point.

Re: Motorola Cliq XT Won’t Get Android 2.1 Upgrade

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Post by ugh » Fri, Feb 04, 2011, 3:35 AM UTC

yanw wrote: post #18

What's his point? it's just the usual passive-aggressive dickishness, I don't understand who keeps upvoting this drivel.

You don’t get jokes, do you? This is definitely not HN material but it is also not drivel.

Re: Motorola Cliq XT Won’t Get Android 2.1 Upgrade

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Post by tejaswiy » Fri, Feb 04, 2011, 4:07 AM UTC

That comment came from Rubin in the context of Jobs completely botching up the definition of "open-ness". Yet another out of context reference just to be an utter douche. He's been that way ever since Google went after Apple during 2010 IO.

Re: Motorola Cliq XT Won’t Get Android 2.1 Upgrade

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Post by rlmw » Fri, Feb 04, 2011, 2:26 PM UTC

Yet another straw man post. He's identified a poor update and then claimed that you need to check out the android sources in order for the advantages of openess to become apparent. In reality I know people who aren't programmers or IT people particularly install cyanogenmod on their phones.

This post comes across as a fairly passive-aggressive attack, or a snarky child. I don't know why people rate Gruber's posts. I haven't found his analysis to be particularly insightful. He is usually clear in communicating his feelings about an issue and for that I'd give him credit. But whats the point in reading a clearly communicated thought if its effectively, "I dislike Android, and I intend to bad mouth anything related to Android at any possible opportunity."

Re: Motorola Cliq XT Won’t Get Android 2.1 Upgrade

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Post by cooldude127 » Fri, Feb 04, 2011, 3:40 PM UTC

gloob wrote: post #15

andrewljohnson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you missed the irony. Such a small percentage of people will ever type something into a terminal that it's irrelevant.

All that really means is that most people don't really care that much about the number buried way deep in their phone's Settings menus.

Yeah, but they do care when the app they want to use won't work on their phone because their software is too old.

Re: Motorola Cliq XT Won’t Get Android 2.1 Upgrade

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Post by pan69 » Tue, Feb 08, 2011, 8:58 PM UTC

mrsteveman1 wrote: post #20

pan69 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? We should "trust" Apple instead?

Trust them to update the software on their own phones? Yes i trust them to do that, especially for the current model which is more than i can say for a lot of Android OEMs.

And trust them to take the software away as well...