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Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

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Post by jplayer01 »

tmikaeld wrote: post #20
jplayer01 wrote: post #19

I don't understand. Their partner is Mullvad. Mullvad has servers across the entire god damn globe. Why is this US-only? Why is it US-only going into early 2020, as in, months to provide service to non-US regions in what's probably going to be a limited roll-out to "select regions"? It's not the 90s anymore. It's time to drop the US-centric crap. They're not a publisher. They're not distributing movies or TV series.

I think it's because Firefox have made their own client and they only want to offer Wireguard connections. Since Wireguard is still a bit new and buggy, they probably want to make sure it's stable and roll out in stages.

Wireguard isn't US-only in any way. Like, I literally do not understand at all. I can download a working, functional, largely stable Wireguard client on my phone or configure it on my Linux desktop without issue from outside the US. Like, US-based has no bearing on any of this. At all.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

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Post by Gaelan »

justusthane wrote: post #17
commoner wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't look like ProtonVPN supports WireGuard yet. https://protonvpn.com/blog/whats-the-best-vpn-protocol/ Edit: As Gaelan mentioned below, this is an answer to hellcow's first question.

The parent comment specifically states that Mozilla switched to Mullvad as the provider, and the linked article mentions that Mullvad uses Wireguard.

hellcow was asking why they switched to Mulled. commoner suggested it was because ProtonVPN didn't do WireGuard.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

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Post by kgwxd »

With the pending sale of PIA to CyberGhost, I was looking for an alternative to Librem Tunnel. A lot of users on the Purism forum suggested Mullvad and it looks like this uses that. I'll definitely be trying this on Linux when it's available.

It's a shame Purism picked PIA to partner with, I want to support the company but Librem Tunnel is the only feature justifying the $7.99/month Librem One fee for me and I don't want any of that going to CyberGhost. I use Librem Mail too, but they don't offer a price package that includes email without VPN.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

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Post by warhorse10_9 »

jplayer01 wrote: post #21
tmikaeld wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's because Firefox have made their own client and they only want to offer Wireguard connections. Since Wireguard is still a bit new and buggy, they probably want to make sure it's stable and roll out in stages.

Wireguard isn't US-only in any way. Like, I literally do not understand at all. I can download a working, functional, largely stable Wireguard client on my phone or configure it on my Linux desktop without issue from outside the US. Like, US-based has no bearing on any of this. At all.

Where did you get an implication that Wireguard was US-only. The poster you are replying to is simply stating since Wireguard may still be a bit buggy, they are rolling this out in the US first to iron out any kinks before making it widely available.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

#25

Post by zymhan »

jplayer01 wrote: post #19

I don't understand. Their partner is Mullvad. Mullvad has servers across the entire god damn globe. Why is this US-only? Why is it US-only going into early 2020, as in, months to provide service to non-US regions in what's probably going to be a limited roll-out to "select regions"? It's not the 90s anymore. It's time to drop the US-centric crap. They're not a publisher. They're not distributing movies or TV series.

Give them some time, eh?

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

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Post by basch »

freedrock87 wrote: post #12

Watching Firefox sinking to essentially licensing its name like an obsolete fashion brand is sad.

It's a great idea to use Firefox like Wirecutter, as a recommendation for the best of each service type. Combine that with some thin interface over the top, like an OS, to control all the services you subscribe to with unified billing. Password leaks, manager, file sharing, bookmark sync, vpn, dns, newsfeed. Now a new person starting out on the internet doesnt need to learn about haveibeenpwned, dropbox, mullvad, cloudflare, and facebook/pocket. They can let Firefox (hopefully) select the best of each product type, and white label it as part of the Firefox family.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

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Post by commoner »

jedisct1 wrote: post #18

So, the regular price is $5.00/month, but with that incredible partnership, it's only $4.99! This is a game changer!

Mullvad actually charges €5/month, which is about $5.54. (This doesn't take into account the 10% discount if you pay with Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash.)

The $4.99 rate would be a 55 cent discount over the standard rate, which matches the cryptocurrency discount and would likely help support Firefox financially.

Mozilla has been trying to diversify its revenue for a long time:

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/02/13/revenue-diversifica...

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

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Post by admax88q »

warhorse10_9 wrote: post #24
jplayer01 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wireguard isn't US-only in any way. Like, I literally do not understand at all. I can download a working, functional, largely stable Wireguard client on my phone or configure it on my Linux desktop without issue from outside the US. Like, US-based has no bearing on any of this. At all.

Where did you get an implication that Wireguard was US-only. The poster you are replying to is simply stating since Wireguard may still be a bit buggy, they are rolling this out in the US first to iron out any kinks before making it widely available.

But how does rolling it out US only first help with the fact that Wireguard is buggy.

They are already rolling it out slowly via a waiting list. Limiting that to US only doesn't really change how "widely available" it is in order to iron out the kinds. Seem more likely this is regulatory related.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

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Post by dastx »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #14
freedrock87 wrote: post #12

Watching Firefox sinking to essentially licensing its name like an obsolete fashion brand is sad.

Whatever it takes to get reduce their reliance on Google. Mozilla’s goals are at odds with the direction in which Google is taking Chrome, so their dependency on Google is unhealthy at best. Money is a necessary evil, choices must be made.

This. And since I've been looking for a new VPN provider after recent issues with PIA and NordVPN, I'd be happy to pay Mozilla for it. I've also heard a lot of good things about Mullvad so I'm definitely a customer when it's available here.
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