I'm still looking for a browser that lets me pay websites visited in exchange of being served no ads.
I don't understand why Mozilla doesn't offer this kind of subscription in Firefox. That could solve their funding problem too.
Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google would be capable of transitioning to a business model that respects people's privacy. If they would want to, they could flourish under such model. Why are you so sure it's easy for Google to pivot away from their trillion dollar business model?
Google has been watering down and further downplaying their motto of “Don’t be evil” for several years now. It’s hard to build the panopticon of infrastructure ripe for the subjugation of all humanity and not believe you’re doing evil.
I briefly worked for google this year, and “don’t be evil” doesn’t appear in any of their on-boarding materials (anymore at least).
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#23In what way is this not the extend phase of embrace, extend, extinguish?
Um, chrome is doing the embrace and extinguish now under the guise of standards. Essentially they flood standards bodies with unending half assed specs that make it difficult for smaller browsers (Mozilla, opera, qt, etc) to keep up. Then make their properties depend on those half assed features.
While at the same time making sure those new specs also aid their primary business of spying on and tracking users without consent. Then saying any browsers that don’t support those abusive features are holding back the web.
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#25I'm still looking for a browser that lets me pay websites visited in exchange of being served no ads. I don't understand why Mozilla doesn't offer this kind of subscription in Firefox. That could solve their funding problem too.
>I'm still looking for a browser that lets me pay websites visited in exchange of being served no ads.
Isn't that the entire premise of Brave's browser? https://brave.com/
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google has been watering down and further downplaying their motto of “Don’t be evil” for several years now. It’s hard to build the panopticon of infrastructure ripe for the subjugation of all humanity and not believe you’re doing evil.
I briefly worked for google this year, and “don’t be evil” doesn’t appear in any of their on-boarding materials (anymore at least).
> I briefly worked for google this year
I apologize in advance if the reason is personal and you do not want to share, but why did you stay at Google for such a short period of time?
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think the illegal personal data collection is what gives Google their advantage. They don't necessarily need to abandon their current business model, upholding human rights and respecting the spirit of the law would be enough.
> illegal Citation needed
> Google Is Fined $170 Million for Violating Children’s Privacy on YouTube
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/technology/google-youtube...
> Google Is Fined $57 Million Under Europe’s Data Privacy Law
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/21/technology/google-europe-...
> Google fined over Safari cookie privacy row
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19200279
This was just a cursory search, and there are also several ongoing lawsuits and investigations regarding Google's data harvesting practices.
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#28In what way is this not the extend phase of embrace, extend, extinguish?
EEE is when a proprietary addition is made that affects interop with other conformant implementations of an open standard. This privacy feature does not alter how Chrome, FF, or Safari will render HTML or run Javascript, so it is not EEE. There's nothing stopping Chrome from implementing a similar (or better) feature in order to maintain or grow its market share!
We're in funny territory that Microsoft is using a Google open source project in a consumer-positive way that also happens to hurt Google's primary business, but because the feature addition to Edge does not affect interop with other browsers, I don't see how this is EEE.
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#29I'm still looking for a browser that lets me pay websites visited in exchange of being served no ads. I don't understand why Mozilla doesn't offer this kind of subscription in Firefox. That could solve their funding problem too.
>I'm still looking for a browser that lets me pay websites visited in exchange of being served no ads. Isn't that the entire premise of Brave's browser? https://brave.com/
I thought so at first, but :
> Earn rewards by opting into our privacy-respecting ads
That's not what I want. My problem is with ads, as a dumb consumption catalyser and weak revenue model, not with privacy-concerning ads.
Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest
#30Chromium-based Edge will curb abuses by both Google and Microsoft. Now we can use Edge when using Google's services such as Gmail, and Chrome when using Microsoft's services. This will prevent abuses such as Chrome logging you into the browser itself when you log into Gmail, thereby enhancing their surveillance.
Incidentally, Chrome had a longstanding bug where the setting that prevents Chrome logging you into the browser just didn't work. Recently it has started working. Is it a coincidence that this got fixed just weeks before Chromium-based Edge is due to be released? I think not! Hurrah for competition!