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On Becoming One (Collective Consciousness and the Fermi Paradox)

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Re: On Becoming One (Collective Consciousness and the Fermi Paradox)

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Post by vorpalhex »

I've been rewatching an old anime where humans head towards collective conscienceness as a response to extinction level events. And it makes a good point: What if some people don't want to lose their individualized identity?

Connecting is not always the solution.

Re: On Becoming One (Collective Consciousness and the Fermi Paradox)

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Post by r34 »

"Billions of digitized thoughts are transferred between humans every hour of every day, more than the neural messages within any of our individual brains." - this one is quite interesting as a kind of objective measurment (density of information exchange?). According to that conceptual framework in which "consciousness is simply a process of information exchange" (I took it from Culadasa's "The Mind Illuminated", but it's probably much wider) one could thnk in terms of "phase", which level of consciousness dominates.

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Post by mrmonkeyman »

urb wrote: post #16
the-dude wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about that? Bits have mass.

The underlying substrate on which bits register has mass but do they?

What is a bit without its substrate? Abstractions cannot travel outside the head they originate in.

Re: On Becoming One (Collective Consciousness and the Fermi Paradox)

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Post by bantheads »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #17

It's certainly possible for a single consciousness to develop severe mental illness, and if that's what we are then I'd say we were already well down that road.

For the most part, mental health is highly subjective and relative. Psychiatric and psychological diagnosis are based on relativity to the average, or normal mental state of the masses.

So, if all consciousness is merged into one, how could we make any relative judgements?

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Post by bantheads »

carrozo wrote: post #2

An addictive, codependent, smothering one-ness delivered with unquestioning religious fervour sounds like something I’d start an armed resistance against.

As ridiculous as it may sound, this precise sentiment could explain the rise of nationalist fervor in recent times in the face of increasing global consolidation of power and information flow; i.e. nationalist complaining about the "globalists"

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Post by urb »

vorpalhex wrote: post #21

I've been rewatching an old anime where humans head towards collective conscienceness as a response to extinction level events. And it makes a good point: What if some people don't want to lose their individualized identity? Connecting is not always the solution.

What's the name of the anime?

Re: On Becoming One (Collective Consciousness and the Fermi Paradox)

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Post by anotheryou »

I'm scared a population of 1 is close to extinction.

It's already scary that humanity is huddled so close together, be it the internet or the net of planes carrying viruses.

(I still totally dig technology and love the internet and also that so far it's mostly the internet)

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Post by gmuslera »

Still must be defined what is exactly human conciousness, and if have any meaning with that definition the idea of a shared conciousness.

But shared conciousness is not needed, just rising the abstraction level and watching how a society (or mankind) behaves as a whole would be a good hint on what could happen. And the problem is that what drives mankind right now is the money meme, not the preservation of the human race, or going to the stars, or preserve the ecosystem we depend on for a foreseeable future. That may be our great filter.

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