Mac OS X doesn't support TRIM does it?
I know a lot of people are gushing over the SSD drives but aren't they going to be bummed out in 12 months when it starts degrading?
Speculation on the next MacBook Pro
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Re: Speculation on the next MacBook Pro
#22I have the i7 MBP and it is awesome. It has the processing power to do serious work ("video games") and also the mobility to do it on the train. I'd be bummed out if they made the MBP basically a larger MacBook Air. I think most people buy the 15" MBP because they want a mobile workstation, rather than an ultraportable. For example, I hope the new 15" MBP has a top end video card.
Removing the optical drive and switching to SSD shouldn't make it any less a workstation. These changes would allow for a bigger battery, for instance, which would enable them to increase processing power without losing battery life.
Re: Speculation on the next MacBook Pro
#23With an SSD by default, the 13" MBP should offer a decent boost in performance over the Air, so I think it still has a place with its better upgrade options. Recall, it's also the best-selling MBP. I'm hoping they announce the new lineup soon though, been holding off on upgrading my 2006 MBP since November (it's still using a 7200RPM spindle, painful).
I have an expresscard SSD[1] in my 2006 MBP that really made the machine usable again. I run OSX and my apps off the SSD, and keep my user folder on the internal drive. [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161...
Now that's an interesting product... I may have to pick one up in a few months / a year. Hopefully more come out, Newegg lists only one or two of those in their entire lineup, from what I can tell, and it seems a perfect pro-sumer use of the express card slot.
Re: Speculation on the next MacBook Pro
#24Waiting for the 15" upgrade too. But don't want to loose the optical drive, don't use it that often but don't want to shell out a lot of money for an external one. Also I need a ethernet cable slot. In some companies I work they have flaky wireless lan's so I prefer to use cable. At home I also use cable to transfer big files. But I could upgrade my old G wireless lan ;)
Yeah, I use gigabit ethernet as much as possible.
I think it could be a wedge, just not as thin as the Air, and fit the ports.
Re: Speculation on the next MacBook Pro
#25Maybe its just me, but I have no issue with the size and weight of the 15" MBP (again, this could be because I came from previous larger 15" laptops). But I would love to see the optical drive dropped in place of more battery life.... Oh, and 1920x1080 would be nice. But I doubt that'll happen...
"1920x1080 would be nice. But I doubt that'll happen..." Actually, I think that is a real possibility. With the last MacBook Air refresh, screen resolution went up from 1280x800 to 1440x900. The current MacBook Pro 15" has a resolution of 1440x900, based on past refreshes I think it's safe to assume that the new MBP 15" will have a higher resolution than the current MBA. Most likely 1680x1050 but 1920x1080 isn't impo…
Dell has been selling 1920x1080 15" screens for close to 2 years.
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#26Mac OS X doesn't support TRIM does it? I know a lot of people are gushing over the SSD drives but aren't they going to be bummed out in 12 months when it starts degrading?
“We started off this article making it intentionally limited in scope as we weren't expecting, in a OS that doesn't support TRIM, to find anything all that interesting. What we found was the exact opposite: an OS that doesn't appear to be affected by SSD performance degradation, at least if you stick to the SSD Apple provides - but if you do stick with that SSD, you get, by modern PC standards, decidedly substandard performance. This one raises many more questions than it answers, and we're going to investigate further.” — http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/apple/2010/07/01/mac-ssd-pe...
TRIM itself doesn’t seem to be an issue. For whatever mysterious reason. (Or their methodology is in some way flawed.)
Edit: Since we really shouldn’t be looking at the old MacBook Airs but at the most recent models, this review by Anandtech is certainly also helpful: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3991/apples-2010-macbook-air-1...
No more substandard SSD performance, TRIM doesn’t seem to be an issue. The author suspects that Apple’s custom firmware is to blame.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
The author mentions the new CPUs in a footnote: "Except new CPUs, but who cares? CPUs are the least exciting (and usually least relevant) upgrades in modern mass-market personal computers." For the vast majority of users, including many power users, moving from a "very fast" processor to an "extremely fast" processor is much less of a performance gain than moving from a HDD to a SDD. That's not to say that I don't wi…
SSD's really help compilation times! All those little files.
I have a new intel core 2630QM quad core and it is the biggest difference in compile times I have ever gotten from an upgrade. At least 3x times as fast as on Core2Duo T7600 that I was using before. Then again I'm compiling Silverlight assemblies which might be more CPU-bound than what you're doing.
Also don't take just my word for it: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/867741/ssd-drives-and-vis...
Re: Speculation on the next MacBook Pro
#28Mac OS X doesn't support TRIM does it? I know a lot of people are gushing over the SSD drives but aren't they going to be bummed out in 12 months when it starts degrading?
You really think that Apple would let their SSD-buying customers twist in the wind? The people paying a premium, or buying an MacBook Air? You're saying that Apple hasn't had or won't have a way to make OS X love the SSD?
Apple, the company that will probably be the first major computer manufacturer to eliminate the spinning disks, the company that is doing whatever it can to snatch up flash memory production capacity. That same company is going to let the performance suffer on, like, all of their devices? Really?
Re: Speculation on the next MacBook Pro
#29Maybe its just me, but I have no issue with the size and weight of the 15" MBP (again, this could be because I came from previous larger 15" laptops). But I would love to see the optical drive dropped in place of more battery life.... Oh, and 1920x1080 would be nice. But I doubt that'll happen...
"1920x1080 would be nice. But I doubt that'll happen..." Actually, I think that is a real possibility. With the last MacBook Air refresh, screen resolution went up from 1280x800 to 1440x900. The current MacBook Pro 15" has a resolution of 1440x900, based on past refreshes I think it's safe to assume that the new MBP 15" will have a higher resolution than the current MBA. Most likely 1680x1050 but 1920x1080 isn't impo…
The current generation 15" MBPs have 1680x1050 as high-res option. That could maybe become standard. But 1920x1080 seems a bit excessive on a 15" screen, at least without some sort of UI scaling, as even 1680 occasionally has me leaning forward a bit to easier make out some details.
Re: Speculation on the next MacBook Pro
#30Maybe its just me, but I have no issue with the size and weight of the 15" MBP (again, this could be because I came from previous larger 15" laptops). But I would love to see the optical drive dropped in place of more battery life.... Oh, and 1920x1080 would be nice. But I doubt that'll happen...
"1920x1080 would be nice. But I doubt that'll happen..." Actually, I think that is a real possibility. With the last MacBook Air refresh, screen resolution went up from 1280x800 to 1440x900. The current MacBook Pro 15" has a resolution of 1440x900, based on past refreshes I think it's safe to assume that the new MBP 15" will have a higher resolution than the current MBA. Most likely 1680x1050 but 1920x1080 isn't impo…
You already can get the 15" MBP with a resolution of 1680x1050. If they make that the standard I would bet that you can also get it with some higher resolution. (I hope that it’s not going to be 1920x1080 because that’s 16:9. I don’t know what the 16:10 equivalent is.)
The problem is that resolution independence is nowhere near finished and the new MBPs will likely arrive before OS X Lion (which could conceivably have resolution independence). Seeing as resolution independence has seen no improvements with Snow Leopard it wouldn’t surprise me if Apple just gave up on it.