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Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

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Re: Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

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They couldn't put out a worse message.

I very much support their search for an alternative to monetarism (surely now completely discredited), the inevitable gross inequality of pure capitalism, the failure of markets to deliver good societies, and so on, but this just reeks of a return to "old socialism".

Re: Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Let's hope a Labour Government would also get rid of that No forethought to what a future Tory government would do after the nation’s infrastructure are put under direct governmental control?

So the reason not to vote for Labour is that the Tories are too evil and can't be trusted?

The reason to avoid (ostensibly good Labour) government overreach is that you can't trust the Tories when they're in power.

Re: Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

#24
post #12

Calling it now: not happening. Just like half of their current election promises. Doubling down on predictions: Labour loses.

> Calling it now: not happening. Just like half of their current election promises.

Do we still have the list of things that the Tories under David Cameron promised Scotland? What happened to that?

Re: Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

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post #18

When will people understand nothing is free. There will be no true equality until we're all equally poor.. that is until free energy / replicators, Star trek technology.

Even in Star Trek, there were admirals, and there were ensigns. There were First Chancellor of the Planet, and common folks.

Re: Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

#28
The history of Internet provision "for all" in the UK is atrocious. Massive government handouts followed by private companies that had lobbied for them failing to meet their promises is a summary.

I can't see a nationalisation resolving the issues though, especially not with the paltry numbers being bandied around.

I could see better regulation and forced separation of concerns achieving a lot however.

That said, Internet issues are not the major problem of our times. These issues are a distraction from those of first past the post voting and a collapse in journalistic quality.

Re: Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

#29
EU has just approved Irelands National Broadband Plan, which has been characterized by delays and beaurucracy since it's inception.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/broadband-tim...

It hopes to connect .5 million rural homes (private ISPs won't touch them generally) for about €3 Billion Euro over the next few years.

It's insightful to compare the two approaches.

Re: Labour pledges free broadband for all homes and firms in UK

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post #2

porn and VPN (to allow unfiltered internet) is charged extra though!

That's a Tory policy. Let's hope a Labour Government would also get rid of that.

Labour was quite upset when the porn block was canceled:

> Labour attacked that announcement as “proof that an important policy issue has descended into utter shambles”.

And in 2013:

> David Cameron must bring in laws to restrict access to internet pornography and stop images of child abuse from being available online, Labour will say today.

> However, Labour is challenging the Government to go further by bringing in new legal protections, including an automatic block on online pornography unless users "opt-in" and a tighter obligation on web companies to weed out images of child abuse.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10114845/La...

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