German labour laws are very well suited plus there labour pool of qualified people is also very large.
Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin
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#22They obviously needed to get one built in Europe sooner rather than later to boost marketshare there and stay ahead of demand without needing to ship from China or the US, but why Berlin? Does anyone know if they got subsidies out of it?
East Germany still has lower wages.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it makes sense. Berlin is very spacious and connected to a lot of cities via rail.
Berlin is about 230 km (140 miles) away from Wolfsburg, where Volkswagen is located. Pretty sure there is infrastructure and are suppliers nearby.
Talent. It's why you see clustering of industries.
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#24Good strategy from Treelon overall. You'll have Tesla producing cars and employing thousands of workers in the U.S, China & Germany so that no one would stifle the company's path towards autonomous EV's.
This will produce pressure on Europe to ease for instance the AI regulations and basically removed Customs tax from many other countries because Tesla can send the cars from three different locations.
I just don't understand why Tesla is slow in expanding to other countries. Here in Israel we don't have Teslas and it's an extremely innovative place with very good conditions for an EV as Israel stretches 424 km (263 mi) from north to south. like two or three charging locations and you're done.
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#25Why should a GIGA factory be located near the airport and in a city ? A factory meant to mass produce something should be somewhere the land is cheap should not it be ?
Berlin is in a special situation due to the history. As only west Berlin belonged to west Germany and east Berlin and all the surrounding areas were part of the DDR, there is still a steep fall-off in industrialization as soon as you leave the direct Berlin area. Also in the DDR the industrial centers were in other cities than Berlin. So there should be plenty of cheap real estate not too far from Berlin.
Also in Bavaria, once you leave Munich (BMW), Augsburg or Ingoldstadt (Audi), there is quite a steep drop-off in density. The traditional high-density industrial regions of Germany are rather in the west and south-west.
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#26German labour laws are very well suited plus there labour pool of qualified people is also very large.
why are german labour laws very well suited? Tesla had several incidents with injured workers and safety violations
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#27Please drop your inevitable BER jokes below so we can recylce them properly later.
Placing it near that airport may be the biggest risk Musk has ever taken.
Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin
#28Why should a GIGA factory be located near the airport and in a city ? A factory meant to mass produce something should be somewhere the land is cheap should not it be ?
supply chain, labor?
I mean we used to build factories on the river for that reason. Made a royal mess, but easy to ship things in and out.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Berlin is about 230 km (140 miles) away from Wolfsburg, where Volkswagen is located. Pretty sure there is infrastructure and are suppliers nearby.
Talent. It's why you see clustering of industries.
Except that most automotive talent is clustered in the south of Germany (greater Stuttgart and greater Munich), not in Berlin.
If you do a quick job search, those places have the most jobs in Auto and also the highest wages.
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#30Good strategy from Treelon overall. You'll have Tesla producing cars and employing thousands of workers in the U.S, China & Germany so that no one would stifle the company's path towards autonomous EV's. This will produce pressure on Europe to ease for instance the AI regulations and basically removed Customs tax from many other countries because Tesla can send the cars from three different locations. I just don't un…
Isn't the issue in Israel that you must have a local importer and dealer?