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Re: PeerTube v2

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Post by cyborgx7 »

m12k wrote: post #17
cyborgx7 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Right, and web servers too - neither had much competition when it launched though, so the point about no being able to beat incumbent proprietary solutions still stands. Not to mention the majority of people get their email hosted by a proprietary service these days.

>neither had much competition when it launched though

I'm sceptikal as well, about a federated protocol being able to replace an existing entrenched player. Buy I still hope.

>Not to mention the majority of people get their email hosted by a proprietary service these days.

But all the proprietary services talk to eachother, and, mostly, talk to private instances as well. There are absolutely allowed to be proprietary PeerTube instances.

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Post by m12k »

swebs wrote: post #11
m12k wrote: post #6

Does anyone know of a successful server-based peer-to-peer project other than TOR and cryptocurrencies? I'm all for breaking free of the stranglehold of centralized proprietary platforms, but it also seems to me that most of the open source projects that ever really succeed at competing against entrenched proprietary incombents are the ones where a centralized service is being provided by a non-profit (e.g. Wikimedia…

Nextcloud. Or depending on how you define a server, Bittorrent.

I didn't know NextCloud was P2P (I thought it was just based on a central server with a bunch of clients) - what's the P2P part?

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Post by [deleted] »

kauffj wrote: post #10
mikece wrote: post #3

The peer-to-peer storage and sharing of video files isn't the hard part: it's the ability to search for and discover content that makes YouTube compelling in my opinion. Are any of these p2p YouTube replacements presenting a compelling way to search/discover content in a distributed way? Or if the search index is centralized, do any of them have a compelling model for staying funded without selling everyone's search/…

You could look at LBRY ( https://lbry.tech https://lbry.com https://beta.lbry.tv ). LBRY is similar to PeerTube in open and decentralization, but all content metadata is written to a blockchain, which means everyone/anyone can access the index. This blockchain can then be searched ( https://github.com/lbryio/lighthouse ) or extracted to SQL ( https://github.com/lbryio/chainquery ).

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Post by timwaagh »

It seems like they did not consider how they want peertubers to be able to monetize. On the contrary, it seems they have something against 'capturing your attention and selling it to Fanta'. I want this piece of work to be exhibit A in how staying inside your ideological bubble will ensure failure. I think it's especially sad since they used crowdfunded money so they aren't just failing on their own dime.

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Post by tasogare »

The work done is awesome. I’ll try it because the idea of self-hosting low traffic videos is interesting.

Besides, I can’t stand articles that use the so called écriture inclusive. Either they write in the accepted, standardized version of French or they fork it but don’t call it French.

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Post by MayeulC »

I really like the platform, but I think it would shine even more with scalable video coding support, to the point that it would be a game-changer. Unfortunately, the issue was closed [1].

Do any of you know open source libraries, or documentation on SVC for mp4, VP9 or AV1? I don't think ffmpeg supports this at all, which is a shame.

[1]: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/99

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Post by rvense »

m12k wrote: post #22
swebs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nextcloud. Or depending on how you define a server, Bittorrent.

I didn't know NextCloud was P2P (I thought it was just based on a central server with a bunch of clients) - what's the P2P part?

It's not peer-to-peer, but you can share files between Nextcloud instances.

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Post by arkh »

mikece wrote: post #3

The peer-to-peer storage and sharing of video files isn't the hard part: it's the ability to search for and discover content that makes YouTube compelling in my opinion. Are any of these p2p YouTube replacements presenting a compelling way to search/discover content in a distributed way? Or if the search index is centralized, do any of them have a compelling model for staying funded without selling everyone's search/…

> discover content

Discover heavily sponsored content from content farms. As an experiment, even with an old account, start just browsing the content Youtube highlights. You will soon end with a recommendation page full of shit with 500K+ views using the same template.

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Post by rapnie »

m12k wrote: post #6

Does anyone know of a successful server-based peer-to-peer project other than TOR and cryptocurrencies? I'm all for breaking free of the stranglehold of centralized proprietary platforms, but it also seems to me that most of the open source projects that ever really succeed at competing against entrenched proprietary incombents are the ones where a centralized service is being provided by a non-profit (e.g. Wikimedia…

Check Awesome P2P: https://github.com/kgryte/awesome-peer-to-peer

I like https://datproject.org and the idea of https://beakerbrowser.com (with Beaker you can setup a website without needing a server)

Edit: There is also an Awesome Dat at https://github.com/dat-land/awesome-dat/blob/master/readme.m...

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Post by Deukhoofd »

kgraves wrote: post #5

Great work! This is a good YouTube alternative I can get behind, however after reading a little bit I kind of frowned at this line on the plugin paragraph. > You could also imagine plug-ins to sort videos in reverse alphabetical order, or to add a Tipee, Paypal or Patreon button below videos! Please don't consider or be tempted by those three proprietary platforms, I would much rather prefer donating using Liberapay…

The point for the plugin system is that someone could write those things. That also means you could easily write a Liberapay plugin.
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