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Re: Renaissance Technologies

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> This article is about the American hedge fund management company. For technical advancements during the European Renaissance period, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_technology

Thanks, something like that is what I expected and what piqued my interest from the title :)

Re: Renaissance Technologies

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post #18

A great book about RenTec and Jim Simons came out recently: The Man Who Solved the Market: How Jim Simons Launched the Quant Revolution. Everyone in the industry worships Simons and RenTec as practically god-like. What they've managed to do shouldn't really be possible and is out of this world. According to Wikipedia over a 20 year period between 1994 and 2014, RenTec realized an 71.9% annualized return in their inte…

But how do you know these return numbers? Esp since as you say the fund has no outside investors?

Who has audited these numbers and what is your source specifically?

I‘m aware of Rentec for many years and also awed by the numbers but I‘ve always wondered where do people actually get them?

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post #18

A great book about RenTec and Jim Simons came out recently: The Man Who Solved the Market: How Jim Simons Launched the Quant Revolution. Everyone in the industry worships Simons and RenTec as practically god-like. What they've managed to do shouldn't really be possible and is out of this world. According to Wikipedia over a 20 year period between 1994 and 2014, RenTec realized an 71.9% annualized return in their inte…

Thank you. People cling to the efficient market hypothesis like it’s a law of nature.

Re: Renaissance Technologies

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post #14

Do they still outperform? I can imagine 10 years ago they were ahead of everyone but now quant investing is everywhere I would be surprised if they have a big edge.

10 years ago „quant“ investing was already everywhere

Re: Renaissance Technologies

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post #20

A 66% annualized return over 30 years - from a completely opaque investment strategy. Extraordinary result for sure, how did he do it? Run by Robert Mercer, the money man who associated with prominent money launderers. Based on my priors, Occams Razor says Rentech is a laundromat, not a hedge fund.

66% CAGR is impossible. That would mean every million dollars you invested turns into $4 Trillion.

Well, the thing is that they cap the size of the fund at $10B so it's not really a CAGR per se as the original capital isn't appreciating at that rate.

It's just they have $10B invested and then they distribute $6.6B per year and that's it (i.e., the fund doesn't become $16.6B next year).

Still take your point that it's an insane figure!

Re: Renaissance Technologies

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post #20

A 66% annualized return over 30 years - from a completely opaque investment strategy. Extraordinary result for sure, how did he do it? Run by Robert Mercer, the money man who associated with prominent money launderers. Based on my priors, Occams Razor says Rentech is a laundromat, not a hedge fund.

66% CAGR is impossible. That would mean every million dollars you invested turns into $4 Trillion.

The strategy is capacity constrained, they’ve returned all outside investor capital and distribute profit to employees to keep capital within accessible levels. The $1mm wouldn’t be able to compound as you’ve described as much of the profits will be returns, not reinvested.

Re: Renaissance Technologies

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Who audits their returns? They have not had any outside investors for over a decade. I had not seen an update on their yearly performance for quite some time, and was surprised to see an updated table published in this book. So I'm curious, where did these numbers come from, and did RenTec confirm them, and did an independent party confirm them?

Re: Renaissance Technologies

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post #14

Do they still outperform? I can imagine 10 years ago they were ahead of everyone but now quant investing is everywhere I would be surprised if they have a big edge.

I can't find any recent numbers but the last number I can find is 36% after fees of like 5%/45% in 2015. I would assume they are still killing it, but can't find any info.

Re: Renaissance Technologies

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post #18

A great book about RenTec and Jim Simons came out recently: The Man Who Solved the Market: How Jim Simons Launched the Quant Revolution. Everyone in the industry worships Simons and RenTec as practically god-like. What they've managed to do shouldn't really be possible and is out of this world. According to Wikipedia over a 20 year period between 1994 and 2014, RenTec realized an 71.9% annualized return in their inte…

>S&P 500 returns are log-normally distributed with a log-return of 10% and volatility of 10%

[[citation needed]]

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