I've given up on Chrome a long time ago (using Firefox now), but I think the best way to block ads for good is to use Pi Hole as DNS. I've set it up a couple months ago at my home, plus a Wireguard tunnel so that all connections from my laptop and phones go through that DNS (with the added benefit of encrypting all my traffic over unsecured networks).
Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
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Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#22This is the point in the dominance cycle where the dominant player decides they no longer need to be the fastest or the most secure and that their dominance will allow them to coast along doing their thing. There’s nothing particularly inevitable about what happens next, but let’s hope they get an IE6-sized kick in the teeth.
> they get an IE6-sized kick in the teeth.
as in: people will continue to suffer for about a decade while good alternatives readily spring up but suffer slow adoption?
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#23This is the point in the dominance cycle where the dominant player decides they no longer need to be the fastest or the most secure and that their dominance will allow them to coast along doing their thing. There’s nothing particularly inevitable about what happens next, but let’s hope they get an IE6-sized kick in the teeth.
And we definitely have to help speed up this process
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#24I wonder how much of this is actually about Adblockers... vs Googlers just wanting to make some performance numbers go up in aggregate to make their own internal company stats better. Cos sure as hell no user is waiting for this.
Apple/Safari adopted pretty much the same architecture on Ad Blockers. Maybe just maybe the conspiracy theories are all wrong, and there was actually a legitimate, technical reason for choosing a restricted API.
If there was, they could've communicated it clearly already a year ago. There is no reason to give Google the benefit of the doubt, since it's clear they're not trying to get it.
If this rolls out, I'm going to very loudly tell my friends to use Fox, and not stop.
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#25This is the point in the dominance cycle where the dominant player decides they no longer need to be the fastest or the most secure and that their dominance will allow them to coast along doing their thing. There’s nothing particularly inevitable about what happens next, but let’s hope they get an IE6-sized kick in the teeth.
> they get an IE6-sized kick in the teeth. as in: people will continue to suffer for about a decade while good alternatives readily spring up but suffer slow adoption?
Yeah, let’s hope that it’s IE6-sized, but not IE6-speed. Although I’m not ruling out a lost decade of web tech happening again.
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#26I've given up on Chrome a long time ago (using Firefox now), but I think the best way to block ads for good is to use Pi Hole as DNS. I've set it up a couple months ago at my home, plus a Wireguard tunnel so that all connections from my laptop and phones go through that DNS (with the added benefit of encrypting all my traffic over unsecured networks).
DNS blockers are nuclear option
Sometimes they are useful but in most cases you need more flexible solution
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#27Off-topic: because of this, I was thinking of moving to Vivaldi and it's really sad how unpolished and slow their UI is... it's almost as if it was a beta, still. I wonder if they use it themselves...
It seems to me that they want to reinvent the entire Chrome UI but they don't have the necessary manpower to do it properly.
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#28I wonder how much of this is actually about Adblockers... vs Googlers just wanting to make some performance numbers go up in aggregate to make their own internal company stats better. Cos sure as hell no user is waiting for this.
I don't know if this actually helps Google show more ads. With a 30k rule limit, I'm imagining most adblockers will prioritize the most common ad domains, and I'm pretty sure Google would be at the top of that list. This may really be a win for the long tail of smaller ad networks rather than the bigger players.
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#29Couldn't some kind of graph compression algorithm preprocess the subscribed rulesets into what fits 30k rules? I have no idea about the domain but 30k rules seems more than sufficient to map from a 150k set of uncompressed wildcard patterns.
No the company which has solved some incredible technical/algorithmic problems is not capable of offering any technical solutions which might impact its own bottom line
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#30I wonder how much of this is actually about Adblockers... vs Googlers just wanting to make some performance numbers go up in aggregate to make their own internal company stats better. Cos sure as hell no user is waiting for this.
Apple/Safari adopted pretty much the same architecture on Ad Blockers. Maybe just maybe the conspiracy theories are all wrong, and there was actually a legitimate, technical reason for choosing a restricted API.
> maybe [...] there was actually a legitimate, technical reason for choosing a restricted API
Without any further explanation that sounds rather unlikely.
The change is very publicly criticized and keeping legitimate reasons that could've increased support secret is a really counter intuitive strategy.
Apart from that I think it's not far-fetched or particularly conspiratorial to assume that an ad-company might have an interest in restricting ad-blocking.
"When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses not zebras."