Jon Snow used the same logic to get out of the Night’s Watch.
Thanks a bunch.
A Prisoner Who Briefly Died Argues That He’s Served His Life Sentence
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#22It seems to me that defining clinical death as the loss of heart beat and breathing is outdated and it should instead be defined as the cessation of higher brain activity.[1] Alternately, it seems to me like referring to that as death is playing semantics. It seems to me that the defining feature of death is that you cannot come back from it[2]. I'd be interested to hear other perspectives or if I might be overlookin…
It's my understanding that with the creation of resuscitation methods and life-support systems that clinical death was already redefined to include cessation of brain activity. If they were not put on life support for example they would meet the definition of death through cessation of respiratory system and heartbeat. Pretty sure this guy doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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#23This story reminds me of an old movie called Flatliners (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099582/) where medical students experimented with near death by intentionally inducing cardiac arrest. If you get a life sentence you could hire the Flatliners to come and kill you for a few minutes and then bring you back. hehehe
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#24Before you comment about the judge getting it wrong, do your due diligence and at least get familiar with the plain text of the law.
In Iowa, "death" is defined in Iowa Code §702.8 as "an irreversible cessation of spontaneous respiratory and circulatory functions".
It says "irreversible" right off the bat. IANAL but legally speaking this is an easy and uncontroversial case.
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#25This story reminds me of an old movie called Flatliners ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099582/ ) where medical students experimented with near death by intentionally inducing cardiac arrest. If you get a life sentence you could hire the Flatliners to come and kill you for a few minutes and then bring you back. hehehe
Or just OD in heroin and wait for a guard to come administer narcan
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#26It seems to me that defining clinical death as the loss of heart beat and breathing is outdated and it should instead be defined as the cessation of higher brain activity.[1] Alternately, it seems to me like referring to that as death is playing semantics. It seems to me that the defining feature of death is that you cannot come back from it[2]. I'd be interested to hear other perspectives or if I might be overlookin…
This comment took a turn in your last paragraph in a way that genuinely fascinates me since it was otherwise very logical. So you would write laws around the idea of things that have never been shown to be physically possible, just because you believe them to be possible?
How far would you take this? Should we bring back laws against witchcraft? Should other religions get to define their own laws based on what they expect to be possible, or just Christianity?
And if such a law is tested in court, how should we prove that it was divine? Maybe this case of the prisoners heart starting again was really God intervening, why should it not trigger your proposed God clause?
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#27It seems to me that defining clinical death as the loss of heart beat and breathing is outdated and it should instead be defined as the cessation of higher brain activity.[1] Alternately, it seems to me like referring to that as death is playing semantics. It seems to me that the defining feature of death is that you cannot come back from it[2]. I'd be interested to hear other perspectives or if I might be overlookin…
I prefer information theoretic death, in which the information content of the brain cannot be recovered with any medical intervention we have available, but that may run into the cloning problem...
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#28Since it's Iowa, he should use Jesus Christ as precedent. Jesus died for the the sins of all mankind. His atonement was not reversed after the resurrection.
> Since it's Iowa,
I don’t understand the connection you are trying to make.
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#29Re: A Prisoner Who Briefly Died Argues That He’s Served His Life Sentence
#30It seems to me that defining clinical death as the loss of heart beat and breathing is outdated and it should instead be defined as the cessation of higher brain activity.[1] Alternately, it seems to me like referring to that as death is playing semantics. It seems to me that the defining feature of death is that you cannot come back from it[2]. I'd be interested to hear other perspectives or if I might be overlookin…
I prefer information theoretic death, in which the information content of the brain cannot be recovered with any medical intervention we have available, but that may run into the cloning problem...
Hopefully the information is quantum in nature, then the no-cloning theorem solves the cloning problem :)