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When Britain and France Almost Merged into One Country (2017)

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Re: When Britain and France Almost Merged into One Country (2017)

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> U.K. is a better country Not proveable, relevant or helpful

Judging by all the countries I've lived in every country will have things it is better in than others and the reverse. No country has it all and objectively comparing countries is extremely hard. The happiness indicator for residents is one of the best ways that I know of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report#2019_re...

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> Marshal Pétain, 84 years old and the great hero of World War I, believed it was his duty to save France from total destruction and accept an armistice with Germany. Britain was doomed, he said, and union would be “fusion with a corpse.” Another minister concluded: “Better be a Nazi province. At least we know what that means.” Reynaud later wrote in his memoirs, “Those who rose in indignation at the idea of union wi…

Every country had its characters like Pétain, the Dutch had their own share of them ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Dutch_collaborators_w... see here for a whole slew of Dutch), it was the same in almost every country the Nazi's attacked and even some where it did not.

Indeed, and one of them, Norway's Vidkun Quisling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling), was so notorious his name become synonymous with betraying your country. To this day, in multiple countries, all you have to say to indicate that you think someone would be happy to trade loyalty for power is to call them a quisling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling).

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I thought they meant when the King of England was an actual frenchman and French was the upper-class language of the UK.

1066? Lucky for us that Britain and France didn't get along or the US War of Independence would not have succeeded.

There would have been other allies most probably if it were not for France.

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The UK is a country full of hatred, racism and xenophobia. I say this as a Brit. It's not better than France in any way, shape or form. France is not without its issues either though. Both countries need to be better.

It's probably the most multi-racial and integrated country in the world. After all, the favourite British dish is curry.

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> The refugee policy is just too extreme at that time.

Eh? What, precisely, about the E.U. refugee policy is just “too extreme”? Which aspect of it?

By the way, outside the hard right there’s little evidence that it was a big deal for Brexit voters, who tended to be more concerned with inter-EU migration and/or tabloid fluff (ie the EU’s sinister plot to ban kettles and jam).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK is a country full of hatred, racism and xenophobia. I say this as a Brit. It's not better than France in any way, shape or form. France is not without its issues either though. Both countries need to be better.

It's probably the most multi-racial and integrated country in the world. After all, the favourite British dish is curry.

The UK population is ~87% white. The US is at 77%.

As to relative degrees of integration, I don't know how you'd measure it, but the UK has its own serious struggles on that front.

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