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My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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post #15

There's no mention in the article, but as a kid I really liked the flavor text at the bottom of some cards: witty, small fragments of an unknown fantasy lore.

Well there is the whole MtG novel series for the (relatively) newer blocks and sets. I wouldn't be surprised if some flavor texts are direct quotes.

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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MtG is just a fantastic game. Somehow I think the detailed rules really appeals to those of us who simulate automata in our head. ;) > I had begun the interview with what I figured was an obvious, softball icebreaker: “Yes,” Garfield responded when asked if he was related to President James Garfield (1831-1881), “he was my great-great-grandfather.” Wow! > I think make-believe is a very important component of games; t…

My favorite sets are the Un-series specifically because the art and flavor texts are so quirky.

As a blue player, one of my favorite cards of all time is Cheatyface [0] from Unhinged:

> Cheatyface {U}{U}{U}

> Creature — Efreet (2/2)

> If Cheatyface is in your hand, you may sneak Cheatyface onto the battlefield. If an opponent catches you right away, that player may exile Cheatyface.

> Flying

[0] https://scryfall.com/card/unh/30/cheatyface

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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MtG is just a fantastic game. Somehow I think the detailed rules really appeals to those of us who simulate automata in our head. ;) > I had begun the interview with what I figured was an obvious, softball icebreaker: “Yes,” Garfield responded when asked if he was related to President James Garfield (1831-1881), “he was my great-great-grandfather.” Wow! > I think make-believe is a very important component of games; t…

Related to your comment, MtG is turing complete: https://www.toothycat.net/~hologram/Turing/HowItWorks.html

Related to your comment, here's the paper [0] and Because Science recently made a video about how such a game would look like [1].

[0] https://arxiv.org/abs/1904.09828

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdmODVYPDLA

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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The art in the old sets were so much more iconic and imaginative. They were so varied in styles and had so much personality. The newer ones have a much more consistent style, but ends up looking really generic and forgettable.

I don't think that's completely true; plenty of the new cards are quite imaginative. I think there's just a greater degree of imposed consistency in the design.

For some counterexamples to your point, look at any of the art by Seb McKinnon.

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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The art in the old sets were so much more iconic and imaginative. They were so varied in styles and had so much personality. The newer ones have a much more consistent style, but ends up looking really generic and forgettable.

Agree completely. The redesign of the card format ruined the game for me. IMO the old format made it feel like you were holding some ancient and special.

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a way to have access to all cards for free? Kind of ruins the fun when you need to sink so much $$$ just to try out different decks. Another reason Hearthstone was so frustrating. All the legendary cards were locked behind astronomical paywalls.

Another game you might want to take a look at is Dominion. You buy a single box with the cards for all the players (from 2 to 4 IIRC) so no need to buy extra decks.

I enjoyed Dominion, and generally appreciate games where you don't have to keep buying things to play competitively. I've never actually played it, but I was always intererested in Codex: http://sirlingames.com/codex

It's modeled after real time strategy games (Warcraft 3 especially), and was designed by David Sirlin. Sirlin writes about game design, and I've really enjoyed his commentary on competitive systems. He did the rebalancing for Super Street Fighter 2 HD Remix, and the changes he made are discussed in a series of articles here: http://www.sirlin.net/articles/sf

You can various other articles he's written by clicking around that site.

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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It's nice to learn about the backstory of Stasis in particular. The card art in Magic was gorgeous all around back then, but Stasis in particular has always been one of my favorites. Totally iconic, highly unique stylistically but still a great fit for what the card is and does. It's a real classic of the genre.

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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post #2

MtG is just a fantastic game. Somehow I think the detailed rules really appeals to those of us who simulate automata in our head. ;) > I had begun the interview with what I figured was an obvious, softball icebreaker: “Yes,” Garfield responded when asked if he was related to President James Garfield (1831-1881), “he was my great-great-grandfather.” Wow! > I think make-believe is a very important component of games; t…

Is there a way to have access to all cards for free? Kind of ruins the fun when you need to sink so much $$$ just to try out different decks. Another reason Hearthstone was so frustrating. All the legendary cards were locked behind astronomical paywalls.

You could print out the cards

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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post #2

MtG is just a fantastic game. Somehow I think the detailed rules really appeals to those of us who simulate automata in our head. ;) > I had begun the interview with what I figured was an obvious, softball icebreaker: “Yes,” Garfield responded when asked if he was related to President James Garfield (1831-1881), “he was my great-great-grandfather.” Wow! > I think make-believe is a very important component of games; t…

I've begun to realize that the games I play for fun reflect the complexity of the work that I do. sigh

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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post #2

MtG is just a fantastic game. Somehow I think the detailed rules really appeals to those of us who simulate automata in our head. ;) > I had begun the interview with what I figured was an obvious, softball icebreaker: “Yes,” Garfield responded when asked if he was related to President James Garfield (1831-1881), “he was my great-great-grandfather.” Wow! > I think make-believe is a very important component of games; t…

Is there a way to have access to all cards for free? Kind of ruins the fun when you need to sink so much $$$ just to try out different decks. Another reason Hearthstone was so frustrating. All the legendary cards were locked behind astronomical paywalls.

There's an online version of MtG with pretty reasonably prices cards iirc, and you can get lots free.

Interface is amazingly complicated though, since it has to model all of MtG.

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