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Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Piling Up

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Re: Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Piling Up

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Yes. The only remaining question is when.

Within the year of 2020? Do you think? I really don't know... suppose you don't either.

If somebody could tell you when, they would be able to massively profit from this. Current thought from finance industry are leaning towards a crash next year, but I don't think anyone would bet the farm on it.

Re: Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Piling Up

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So should I pull out on all my stocks and stuff everything into bonds then?

As always, depends on your appetite for risk and your timeframe for using the money.

Personally, I don't see much upside left in equities for next year or two, but I'm a perma-bear and have been wrong many times before :D

Plus there's not a lot of easy places to stuff money at the moment, hence big investors sitting on piles of cash.

Re: Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Piling Up

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Risky mortgages and delinquencies were only a problem because:

the lenders* themselves had borrowed too much

the lenders didn’t know they had borrowed so much

the ratings agencies were not judging the merit of the investments that lenders had invested in

*by lender I mean the ultimate party reliant on payments from the mortgage borrower

much was done to add transparency and safeguards to that specific issue, so just because lending standards are loose again doesn't mean there is systemic incestuous exposure to losses and collateral calls to the world’s most financially important institutions

happy trading

Re: Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Piling Up

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Mortgage debt will probably not be a problem in this cycle. People have this bias to remember most recent event, but it's rarely the same thing twice in a row: https://imgur.com/a/0dT7iHK Corporate debt may be: https://imgur.com/a/b54hMSg And frankly with the amount of outstanding US govt debt and underfunded pension & healthcare liabilities the USD may either get dethroned and devalued or sent into the negative inte…

So if the USD becomes weak, who out there could be in a position to become stronger? I don’t see any candidate. Euro growth is weak. CN bookkeeping’s suspect...

If the USD is stronger than it should be, what should happen is that the USD becomes weaker, that is, that every other currency becomes relatively stronger. None of them need become the new "stronger than it should be". They can just all move up relative to the dollar.

Re: Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Piling Up

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So should I pull out on all my stocks and stuff everything into bonds then?

As always, depends on your appetite for risk and your timeframe for using the money. Personally, I don't see much upside left in equities for next year or two, but I'm a perma-bear and have been wrong many times before :D Plus there's not a lot of easy places to stuff money at the moment, hence big investors sitting on piles of cash.

I have only been investing for 2 years I am currently 32. So I think most investors wouldn't mind me keeping my stocks but I saw my mother and father loose hundreds of thousands of dollars back in 09 and I am not about to bite that bullet.

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One of these days the gold bugs will be right. This might be the one...

How exactly?

Well a currency devaluation looks like decreasing numbers on USD/gold and also like increasing numbers on gold/USD.

Re: Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Piling Up

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Mortgage debt will probably not be a problem in this cycle. People have this bias to remember most recent event, but it's rarely the same thing twice in a row: https://imgur.com/a/0dT7iHK Corporate debt may be: https://imgur.com/a/b54hMSg And frankly with the amount of outstanding US govt debt and underfunded pension & healthcare liabilities the USD may either get dethroned and devalued or sent into the negative inte…

One of these days the gold bugs will be right. This might be the one...

I was one once, they may sort of be right. Gold will never become a "standard" again, but it could be extremely useful for preserving wealth from one standard to another.

Gold has always been touted as a hedge against inflation, it's not, it's a hedge against financial system instability, inflation being a major symptom of such instability.

Re: Risky Mortgage Bonds Are Back and Delinquencies Are Piling Up

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So should I pull out on all my stocks and stuff everything into bonds then?

since jan 2 2019 S&P 500 is up from 2510 => 3074 so if you read a doom porn article and liquidated on 12/30 you missed out on insane growth spurt

this is no different. you have to factor in potential lost growth when you go risk averse mode; it's against our loss aversion bias but has to be done when thinking long term.

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