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Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is referring to WIT's funding. As per the post: In the short term, I will continue working on KiCad while pursuing as many avenues as possible to generate enough revenue to allow me to continue to work full time on KiCad.

Who are WIT, anyway? Their site is a placeholder: https://www.wit.com/

Archive.org can help in cases like this, e.g.: https://web.archive.org/web/20190517010832/https://www.wit.c...

Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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As a mechanical engineer, I'm envious of polished open source tools that exist in other fields. For parametric modeling and engineering drawing of mechanical parts, the free software tools are not nearly as mature and user friendly as commercial equivalents. When creating engineering drawings and models for public use, I would much prefer to use free software such as FreeCAD, SolveSpace, and OpenSCAD, because I want…

I strongly agree! I often wonder why a big alliance of industrial companies (say Ford, Toyota, Airbus, Mitsubishi...) hasn't formed to create a high-performance open-source mechanical CAD, modelling software. Surely they each pay a fortune in proprietary licenses each year? It seems like it would save them a lot in the long-run to back an open-source standard and then just pay a small amount each year to support its maintenance.

Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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I am one of the FreeCAD developper (vejmarie). I believe some good innovations are coming up within the next release. I recently added some Cloud features with storage capabilities directly to s3, opening doors to build a collaborative platform (I am working on a mockup). Waevfront OBJ exporter has been improved allowing some direct export to webGL format and many other things. Regarding the features, an assembly workbench is under work, and some fancy stuff have been designed with FreeCAD (there is some Renault Twizy design files available). The FeM workbench with OpenFoam bridge allows also to initiate some simulation model. FreeCAD has in its backend a lot of capabilities that we can expose to end user. We are lacking from good feedback on the UI other than we are not yet reaching Solidworks, but FreeCAD is today a solution which works on Mac, Windows, Linux, has an open file format (Brep shape and XML representation), and is fully open source. We made tremendous progress since version 0.16 and there is a strong wish to bring in innovation regarding design workflow. Just tell us what might be your best tools and we can try to do it !

Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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post #22

As a mechanical engineer, I'm envious of polished open source tools that exist in other fields. For parametric modeling and engineering drawing of mechanical parts, the free software tools are not nearly as mature and user friendly as commercial equivalents. When creating engineering drawings and models for public use, I would much prefer to use free software such as FreeCAD, SolveSpace, and OpenSCAD, because I want…

I strongly agree! I often wonder why a big alliance of industrial companies (say Ford, Toyota, Airbus, Mitsubishi...) hasn't formed to create a high-performance open-source mechanical CAD, modelling software. Surely they each pay a fortune in proprietary licenses each year? It seems like it would save them a lot in the long-run to back an open-source standard and then just pay a small amount each year to support its…

"I often wonder"... because fucking "nobody was fired for buying IBM". For your average section manager of an engineering unit, CAD costs are just plain old "resources", just as engineers. As long as these costs are in check, NO ONE would risk their warm and fluffy high paid positions in undertaking such risky initiative. Even proposing one. Remember, initiative is punishable. This craeates a culuture of hairless (or grey-haired) high-paid impotents (in a figurative and literal sense) that would do as little as possible to risk their position, including taking initiatives with high rewards (like developing open source CAD tools).

Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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As a mechanical engineer, I'm envious of polished open source tools that exist in other fields. For parametric modeling and engineering drawing of mechanical parts, the free software tools are not nearly as mature and user friendly as commercial equivalents. When creating engineering drawings and models for public use, I would much prefer to use free software such as FreeCAD, SolveSpace, and OpenSCAD, because I want…

Whenever a free CAD software exists, AutoCAD or similar buys them out. I'm not sure the solution.

This is exactly the situation in the realm of ASICs. Patent situation is a fucking minefield, so whenever a startup arises, the oligopoly smashes it to pieces and then buys out. This was actually the same for compiler technology (remember shitheads Borland?) and it was only pushed back by a large community and social traction. Unfortunately the realm of engineers (electrical, mechanical) is MUCH smaller to gain such traction to change things. So the situation is quite hopeless.

Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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I am one of the FreeCAD developper (vejmarie). I believe some good innovations are coming up within the next release. I recently added some Cloud features with storage capabilities directly to s3, opening doors to build a collaborative platform (I am working on a mockup). Waevfront OBJ exporter has been improved allowing some direct export to webGL format and many other things. Regarding the features, an assembly wor…

As someone who uses FreeCAD on and off, I thank you very much for your efforts! There are a lot of features.

It is definitely not lack of features that holds FreeCAD back, though. It is the UI/usability/stability. In fact, I'd prefer a solution WITHOUT cloud features as it's a liability in my profession, and in general ends up putting an expiration date on the program (as eventually servers get turned off, etc).

Again, thank you SO much for your efforts.

Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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I am one of the FreeCAD developper (vejmarie). I believe some good innovations are coming up within the next release. I recently added some Cloud features with storage capabilities directly to s3, opening doors to build a collaborative platform (I am working on a mockup). Waevfront OBJ exporter has been improved allowing some direct export to webGL format and many other things. Regarding the features, an assembly wor…

As someone who uses FreeCAD on and off, I thank you very much for your efforts! There are a lot of features. It is definitely not lack of features that holds FreeCAD back, though. It is the UI/usability/stability. In fact, I'd prefer a solution WITHOUT cloud features as it's a liability in my profession, and in general ends up putting an expiration date on the program (as eventually servers get turned off, etc). Agai…

You are welcome. The Cloud implementation I made, is fully compatible with the minio server which is an open source implementation of s3 written in Go, meansing that you can keep everything in house and this was something super important to me. FreeCAD is a huge piece of software. Thanks for your support ! I agree with you we change too much things but since 0.17 we moved to something more modular with new object which were reuired to implement a descent assembly workbench. This is done and I do not think this is going to change that much anymore (but who knows) ;) We will do it the best as we can for sure.

Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever a free CAD software exists, AutoCAD or similar buys them out. I'm not sure the solution.

This is exactly the situation in the realm of ASICs. Patent situation is a fucking minefield, so whenever a startup arises, the oligopoly smashes it to pieces and then buys out. This was actually the same for compiler technology (remember shitheads Borland?) and it was only pushed back by a large community and social traction. Unfortunately the realm of engineers (electrical, mechanical) is MUCH smaller to gain such…

If there's some hope, it's China. Hundreds and hundreds of small shops don't care about patents and build their RISC-V based chips.

Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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As a mechanical engineer, I'm envious of polished open source tools that exist in other fields. For parametric modeling and engineering drawing of mechanical parts, the free software tools are not nearly as mature and user friendly as commercial equivalents. When creating engineering drawings and models for public use, I would much prefer to use free software such as FreeCAD, SolveSpace, and OpenSCAD, because I want…

Whenever a free CAD software exists, AutoCAD or similar buys them out. I'm not sure the solution.

Incidentally, one of the no-cost commercial tools just got bought out by one of the big players: https://www.ptc.com/en/about/onshape

Re: Why open hardware needs open software

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post #22

As a mechanical engineer, I'm envious of polished open source tools that exist in other fields. For parametric modeling and engineering drawing of mechanical parts, the free software tools are not nearly as mature and user friendly as commercial equivalents. When creating engineering drawings and models for public use, I would much prefer to use free software such as FreeCAD, SolveSpace, and OpenSCAD, because I want…

I strongly agree! I often wonder why a big alliance of industrial companies (say Ford, Toyota, Airbus, Mitsubishi...) hasn't formed to create a high-performance open-source mechanical CAD, modelling software. Surely they each pay a fortune in proprietary licenses each year? It seems like it would save them a lot in the long-run to back an open-source standard and then just pay a small amount each year to support its…

Cost aside, it would do wonders for productivity if everyone was using the same tool. Right now, collaborating with customers and suppliers on design work is often difficult due to mutually incompatible data formats (even between old and new versions of the same tool).
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