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EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January

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Re: EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January

#21
I expected another extension. There have been so many extensions already, I feel conditioned to expect they'll just keep doing it. It feels like noone on either side actually wants Brexit to happen, but they've politicked each other into a corner, and they're all too proud to back down. It will be a shock when a deadline hits and they finally don't extend it.

Re: EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January

#22
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's baffling to me that Parliament requires a 2/3 vote to call an early election, but something earthshaking like leaving the EU somehow is 50% + 1.

At no point would there have been a 2/3 majority to join the EU in the first place, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_United_Kingdom_European_C...

Yes: 67.23%

Re: EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January

#23

I expected another extension. There have been so many extensions already, I feel conditioned to expect they'll just keep doing it. It feels like noone on either side actually wants Brexit to happen, but they've politicked each other into a corner, and they're all too proud to back down. It will be a shock when a deadline hits and they finally don't extend it.

Only 2nd extension. It's more about "democratic rule and negotiations is difficult". If it was XVIII century they would have simply leave & do the rest with an Armada.

Re: EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January

#24
post #5
post #3

It's a crisis of democracy when the people voted so clearly and they're not given what they voted for. They're being slowly ignored by the political class.

In what world is 51.89%/48.11% "so clear"? You make it sound like it was 90%.

In a quaint rural town in Britain the populace voted in a referendum about what to do about the town's horse mascot. The referendum offered two choices: keep the current (healthy but a bit boring) horse, or get a new and exciting unicorn — majestic, magical, sparkly!

A tiny majority believed the unicorny promises, and voted for the unicorn in 2016.

After three years of mucking about, it turns out that the best the town council can get is either a very old and haggard pony with an inflatable novelty unicorn horn (Johnson's deal), or the rotting cadaver of a dead horse with a carrot glued on its head (no-deal Brexit).

Obviously, one of these two must happen, because the people voted for it. Keeping the perfectly serviceable horse they have now is not an option, because democracy has spoken, and changing your mind is not allowed (because democracy).

Granted, as a European I may be a bit cynical about this mess.

Re: EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January

#27
post #3

It's a crisis of democracy when the people voted so clearly and they're not given what they voted for. They're being slowly ignored by the political class.

They didn't actually vote for anything in particular. It was a move to solve intra-Conservastives issue. It did solve it.

Re: EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January

#29
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's baffling to me that Parliament requires a 2/3 vote to call an early election, but something earthshaking like leaving the EU somehow is 50% + 1.

At no point would there have been a 2/3 majority to join the EU in the first place, though.

There was, in 1975![0] Yes won with 67.23% of the vote.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_United_Kingdom_European_C...

Re: EU agrees Brexit extension to 31 January

#30
post #23

I expected another extension. There have been so many extensions already, I feel conditioned to expect they'll just keep doing it. It feels like noone on either side actually wants Brexit to happen, but they've politicked each other into a corner, and they're all too proud to back down. It will be a shock when a deadline hits and they finally don't extend it.

Only 2nd extension. It's more about "democratic rule and negotiations is difficult". If it was XVIII century they would have simply leave & do the rest with an Armada.

Third, actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brexit#Extensions

Granted 22 March 2019, 10 April 2019, and today.

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