For fuck's sake, if you need to be swearing (and I don't think it's necessary at all), just use the actual words.
Who Killed the Scrollbar?
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Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#22This is a pretty fluff piece. There isn't really much explored here. The only interesting idea I can write out is that the author says that knowing the length/size of an article/book is intrinsically good. I do wonder if that is necessarily true. Maybe one can argue that knowing the length of a written word has resulted in less people engaging?
>This is a pretty fluff piece. There isn't really much explored here.
It's not supposed to explore anything, be amusing, or whatever.
It's just a rant about a certain specific UI trend.
>The only interesting idea I can write out is that the author says that knowing the length/size of an article/book is intrinsically good
That's not "the only interesting idea", in the sense that there were supposed to be more but are missing, or they are there but are not interesting.
It is literally the one and only idea the author wanted to convey with this post. They didn't set out to explore some vast expanse of UI design ideas. Just to write a rant about the lack of scrollbars/indication of position.
>I do wonder if that is necessarily true.
Yes it is.
>Maybe one can argue that knowing the length of a written word has resulted in less people engaging?
That's a problem for the content creator, not for the users...
Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#23I'm born in the 80s so it's not totally objective, but I know there's something wrong when I boot up a win95 box and I don't miss 99% of so called innovation regarding UI.
I doubt it's nostalgia, even though i m old too. It's just a lot more efficent and faster to use, mouse and keyboard-wise. I often think to roll back to my windows 7 as a more sane desktop environment.
Some of the biggest offenses i 've seen are google's web apps. Total loss of hierarchy and replacement with elusive self-hiding buttons, even when it's clear from their use case that they should never have been hamburgerized. I 'm pretty sure, even in mobile, they are making the UX worse.
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#24Flipping flip i agree! It's not just scrollbars. I hate the mobilification of everything. I hate that desktop designs are imitating the nonexistent information density of phones. Bring back menubars, and extensive left-hand hierarchies . Even in mobile, it's more practical for me. I like a full page where i can zoom in and out faster between its parts rather than scrolling up and down all the time (I browse reddit in…
Incessant hamburgerization is something that I also find annoying. Any time I have to set up Firefox, the very first thing I do is enable the menu bar. My desktop isn't a tablet - stop trying to make it one!
I rarely use the menu bar so I just hit alt when I need it. I'd bet lots of users don't even know it exists though. Especially with Chrome hiding so many of their options
Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#25I guess it's not that important as this article doesn't display a scrollbar either. /s
Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#26From the story: "today's kids".
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#27Pretty brave for posting on a site that breaks the back button.
Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#28The same people who killed folders "because tags". Don't get me wrong, I love tags, but why on earth can't we have BOTH???? I don't always remember what I tagged something with, and searching through 8 years of work to find something is useless.
Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#29I actually think he's making a big deal out of nothing on this one. If you have a site that gets long, it would be smart to create some kind of system for jumping between sections, or scrolling up a great deal. Like Google Docs does when editing a long document. I can jump between bookmarks and pages with the "knob" on the right. But most websites don't need anything like this. It should be the job of the developer o…
In the past, navigation was the software's job, not the document's job to hack something in. You could expect navigation to be handled in a consistent way, and you didn't have to relearn something because you are reading a different site.
Re: Who Killed the Scrollbar?
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having no scrollbar could be descrbied as a broken web experience in my opinion. And I actually think that begin able to modify webpage to your liking is important, even if it means breaking the page in the process (I'm kind of used to it with umatrix) I do agree that in an ideal world, every webpage would be an amazing web experience, but unfortunately that's not the case, even with big websites with amazing UX desg…
Can you share a webpage that actually hides scrollbars? Aside from having a crazy amount of padding and shoving a scrollbar behind some div, how can you actually hide scrollbars cross browser?
It's literally one line in CSS to hide scrollbars.
You can also design the page to endlessly ask for new content as one scrolls, but never display a scrollbar...