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Re: Ghost 3.0

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Post by ndarilek »

johnonolan wrote: post #3

Hi HN, John from Ghost here. Thanks for the comments about 3.0 — we spent a lot of late nights on this, and it's a pretty big upgrade for Ghost as a platform (which is now 6 years old). I know the audience here is generally more interested in technical details and reasons for why this took longer than 1 weekend to build. So I'll share a few more relevant details absent from the marketing copy: - The new membership sy…

Haven't looked at Ghost in a while. The subscription system looks neat. I'd recently considered launching an indie game development site for a very niche style of gaming (audio-only) that could probably benefit from a Patreon-style model, but my margins would be so low that the Patreon cut would be hefty for little to no network effect benefit, and I know better than to try rolling my own.

Is there any mechanism for both subscription tiers and pay-what-you-want? So maybe I had a $5 tier and a $10 tier, and if someone wanted to pay $7 then they could and get the $5 benefits?

I'll research this myself when the 3.0 Docker image becomes available, but thought I'd ask first. Not even sure if Stripe supports that functionality, or if it does, how hard it'd be for me to add and contribute back.

Thanks for making Ghost.

Re: Ghost 3.0

#22

Post by johnonolan »

therealmarv wrote: post #9

looks nice. Especially like the membership module and will definitely look more deeply into integration with nuxt.js (wow). One thing I don't like is that the membership api seems deeply integrated with Stripe only. That's okay for a start but in many countries in this world Stripe is not available (for me it's the new PayPal. E.g. I'm based in Cyprus and Stripe will not work here although it's EU) and I would welcom…

This is a first version. We're certainly planning to add more payment options, including decentralised ones

Re: Ghost 3.0

#23

Post by maroonedanchor »

wlesieutre wrote: post #12

Looks great, the payments integration is a great idea. I've looked at Ghost on and off while considering setting up my personal site, and pricing is the reason I avoided it. I think they started at $5/month for "Ghost Pro" and are now up to $36 for Pro Basic or $99 for Pro Standard (a bit less purchased in bulk). At a minimum, it's now $348/year. Having paid subscriptions built-in makes that easier to swallow. I don'…

Have you considered self-hosting a Ghost instance?

Re: Ghost 3.0

#24

Post by johnonolan »

ndarilek wrote: post #21
johnonolan wrote: post #3

Hi HN, John from Ghost here. Thanks for the comments about 3.0 — we spent a lot of late nights on this, and it's a pretty big upgrade for Ghost as a platform (which is now 6 years old). I know the audience here is generally more interested in technical details and reasons for why this took longer than 1 weekend to build. So I'll share a few more relevant details absent from the marketing copy: - The new membership sy…

Haven't looked at Ghost in a while. The subscription system looks neat. I'd recently considered launching an indie game development site for a very niche style of gaming (audio-only) that could probably benefit from a Patreon-style model, but my margins would be so low that the Patreon cut would be hefty for little to no network effect benefit, and I know better than to try rolling my own. Is there any mechanism for…

At the moment we've just got a single plan with either a monthly or yearly price point, and adding support for more flexible subscription options is high on the todo list to work toward next!

Re: Ghost 3.0

#26

Post by KaoruAoiShiho »

nickjj wrote: post #20
83457 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_organization "A nonprofit organization, also known as a non-business entity,[1] not-for-profit organization,[2] or nonprofit institution,[3] is dedicated to furthering a particular social cause or advocating for a shared point of view. In economic terms, it is an organization that uses its surplus of the revenues to further achieve its ultimate objective, rather than distributi…

That's still very confusing. Surplus sounds like anything beyond hosting costs to run the service, but the hosting costs is likely no where near 5 million dollars so a majority of it is surplus. Does that mean no one gets a salary or is a salary part of the costs to run the business instead of being a "member"? If salaries are included who dictates what the income tax exempt salary is? I'm not trolling either. What y…

Non profit means no payday for the shareholders. Yes there's a salary and it can be decent but there'll never be a billion dollar ipo or buyout. The major benefit to running a business is not getting the salary but from the wealth created from OWNING the business. The capitalist class doesn't get to benefit in this instance, only the workers.

Re: Ghost 3.0

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Post by bovermyer »

nickjj wrote: post #20
83457 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_organization "A nonprofit organization, also known as a non-business entity,[1] not-for-profit organization,[2] or nonprofit institution,[3] is dedicated to furthering a particular social cause or advocating for a shared point of view. In economic terms, it is an organization that uses its surplus of the revenues to further achieve its ultimate objective, rather than distributi…

That's still very confusing. Surplus sounds like anything beyond hosting costs to run the service, but the hosting costs is likely no where near 5 million dollars so a majority of it is surplus. Does that mean no one gets a salary or is a salary part of the costs to run the business instead of being a "member"? If salaries are included who dictates what the income tax exempt salary is? I'm not trolling either. What y…

Salaries at a nonprofit can be tiny or enormous, depending on how the organization operates.

My guess is that Ghost pays competitive salaries to its rank and file, a generous salary to its CEO, and uses the rest of the money to either fund exploratory work, educate its target industry, and/or lobby politicians. That's how most nonprofits appear to work.

Re: Ghost 3.0

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Post by cpr »

johnonolan wrote: post #3

Hi HN, John from Ghost here. Thanks for the comments about 3.0 — we spent a lot of late nights on this, and it's a pretty big upgrade for Ghost as a platform (which is now 6 years old). I know the audience here is generally more interested in technical details and reasons for why this took longer than 1 weekend to build. So I'll share a few more relevant details absent from the marketing copy: - The new membership sy…

Fantastic work, John. I've long wanted to build a web site just to use Ghost. ;-)

If you could figure out some way to integrate tightly with Webflow (the world's best html/css codeless site builder), that would be an absolute killer and I'd be all over it in a second (as would many others).

I suppose the problem there is that Webflow wants to be its own CMS (naturally), but it's somewhat crippled by being a closed solution.

Re: Ghost 3.0

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Post by bovermyer »

This is definitely targeted squarely at the publishing industry. Newspapers that have yet to build their own CMS should seriously consider using this to power their digital presence.

This, from my experience as a developer and ops engineer for a newspaper.

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