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Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

#21
GitLab are being hypocritical[1][2]. Let's not pretend the "women in tech" and LGBT movements aren't political. Frankly, I think more women in tech and LGBT representation are probably good things, but GitLab is being profoundly disingenuous with their guidelines.

To clarify my point: if you open the gates to the marketplace of ideas, make sure it's an actual marketplace.

[1] https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2018/10/08/stem-gems-give-girl...

[2] https://shop.gitlab.com/products/womens-rainbow-shirt

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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When was it ever okay to discuss politics at work?

When things some people classify as "politics" directly affect work. When you're trying to get your company to make improvements to the state of the world. When you're talking about corporate culture, inclusion, and solving problems. When you're arranging for your company to make a donation, or sponsor an event, or advising against doing so due to potential ramifications. When you're making travel plans and need to know more about your destination. When you're discussing salary or investments or retirement or health or hobbies and the potential impact of future legislative or political changes on those.

We're not just talking about the stereotype of people standing around a water cooler declaring affiliations and throwing political talking points past each other.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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When was it ever okay to discuss politics at work?

Whenever you have reasonable adults working together? I think I’ve, on appropriate occasion, discussed politics with friends and colleagues at every workplace I’ve ever been at. [Edit: some senior leadership] openly supports the DNC and has commented to that effect at town halls. To pretend that people are apolitical or to ban all political discussions because some people can’t seem to handle disagreements in a profe…

Would you feel the same way if your current CEO openly supported the RNC?

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's a SV thing? I saw some of the documents from a recent lawsuit against Google and was pretty astounded by the sorts of things that people were willing to not only say but actually put into writing where anyone on their intranet could see (things along the lines of "I won't let anyone on my team if they have political belief X or voted for Y")

That seems to make sense if you consider how political beliefs and preferred candidates correlate with given personality traits. Why is it stigmatized? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/study-predicts...

Generally diversity is better for a team because it brings in a variety of viewpoints. Someone with different political views might be able to offer some perspective that the rest of the group would have missed.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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post #3

When was it ever okay to discuss politics at work?

I say this as a very left-leaning person (by British standards at the very least), but in my company strong left leaning values are part of the culture and it's expected that you promote LGBTQ+ issues, promote Women in the workplace and promote immigration.

It's not a bad thing in my mind, it's heavy handed at times, I can see how it would rub some traditionalists the wrong way in an extreme way. If you held some form of conservative view then you'd almost certainly be a pariah in our company/studio.

But left-leaning politics is definitely promoted and discussed in the office.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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post #3

When was it ever okay to discuss politics at work?

Maybe it's a SV thing? I saw some of the documents from a recent lawsuit against Google and was pretty astounded by the sorts of things that people were willing to not only say but actually put into writing where anyone on their intranet could see (things along the lines of "I won't let anyone on my team if they have political belief X or voted for Y")

There's very much a social norm in some social circles found in Silicon Valley that total political agreement is expected. Opinions are voiced in the expectation of loud and vociferous agreement.

Like any such environment where conformity is the norm, it works until someone fails to conform.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

#27

I'm sure everyone who has to earn a living to support their family will appreciate this move. Nothing is worse than politics at work, where you may lose your paycheck if you don't align with the correct factions.

"There are three things in life I learned never to discuss with people: religion, politics, and The Great Pumpkin." — Linus

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

#28

I'm sure everyone who has to earn a living to support their family will appreciate this move. Nothing is worse than politics at work, where you may lose your paycheck if you don't align with the correct factions.

Well, some countries have laws against that kind of a thing.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

#30
I feel like discussing politics at work has always been something most folks try to avoid.

On the other hand your company telling you not to is a whole other situation. I'm not sure a policy really solves much. Anyone who wouldn't think twice before discussing such things ... probabbly isn't going to read / care about the policy.

It's one of those rules that no matter how well intentioned, I'm not sure it works well as a policy.

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