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LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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This is fantastic. I would like to see wider legislation allowing scraping of IMDB, Genius, Reddit, Facebook, and Google made legal. These services receive free input from users. The data should remain free. Edit (sort of off topic): There's still value in the building and providing services at scale, but this lowers the barrier to cross the moat for small players. The first step is data liberation. Then we can work…

Another side of this is that the entity doing the scraping is more often than not another company. Which means that if your proposal is implemented, a user can voluntarily give their personal data to Google/Reddit/Facebook etc but that company then has to make the user's personal data available to another company.

It's not quite like that. The first company cannot prevent scraping by individuals or another company of information that it already shows to everyone. Which, to me, is a good thing. My 2c.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

for IMDb, they have a lot of data that is easily accessible, not sure what is missing though: https://datasets.imdbws.com/.. .

Only for personal and non-commercial use, which is probably not what startups need.

Why would they have to make it available to startups in an easily accessible manner?

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

for IMDb, they have a lot of data that is easily accessible, not sure what is missing though: https://datasets.imdbws.com/.. .

Only for personal and non-commercial use, which is probably not what startups need.

process it on your personal computer and use the output in your startup

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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The summary here is that LinkedIn tried to argue that it could prevent scraping of public LinkedIn profile data under their ToS, but the courts have ruled that if data is public and provided by users, it can be scraped/crawled, that is, it isn’t LinkedIn property. This is generally a positive outcome for people/companies turning web text and HTML into structured data, e.g. tools like Puppeteer and Scrapy can be used…

I think that's fine, but I also think the end-user should decide. With Google (edit: I meant Facebook) I'm able to determine whether or not I want to show up in search results. This shouldn't be an absolute is or isn't public situation.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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This is fantastic. I would like to see wider legislation allowing scraping of IMDB, Genius, Reddit, Facebook, and Google made legal. These services receive free input from users. The data should remain free. Edit (sort of off topic): There's still value in the building and providing services at scale, but this lowers the barrier to cross the moat for small players. The first step is data liberation. Then we can work…

Reddit has a decent API

The golden rule is to use the API before you start raw scraping.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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This is fantastic. I would like to see wider legislation allowing scraping of IMDB, Genius, Reddit, Facebook, and Google made legal. These services receive free input from users. The data should remain free. Edit (sort of off topic): There's still value in the building and providing services at scale, but this lowers the barrier to cross the moat for small players. The first step is data liberation. Then we can work…

If you add .json to the end of a Reddit URL, it will return JSON data. For example: https://www.reddit.com/r/ubuntu.json . It also works with comment threads and posts.

PRAW is also a great python reddit "scraper" that allows you to pull data via their API very easily.

Re: LinkedIn loses appeal over access to user profiles

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Question: This seems to mean LinkedIn can't sue to prevent scraping. I assume it's still legal for them to implement technological anti-scraping measures? So the two companies can play cat-and-mouse if they wish with rate-limiting, IP addresses, etc...

An earlier ruling actually ordered LinkedIn to stop attempting to block the scraping using technological measures, too.
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