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Is current consensus that this "subconscious mind" is an actual thing that exists?
No. Nothing of Freuds is actually testable. He asserts that there is a “conscious mind” and “subconscious mind” but only in concept. You might as well try to build an alternative theory of mechanics based on an assertion that all objects have a conscious and subconscious mass, and that gravity actually act on the subconcious mass and only moves the whole because the two are interconnected.
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I've never been convinced that the software-hardware analogy is especially enlightening when it comes to the brain and the mind, in my informed opinion.
at one point I decided to disagree with the idea that the mind is just the brain.
Your post sounds suspiciously new age to me. I’m aware that our bodies feed into our minds, and that things like hormonal levels, nutrition, gut flora and fauna, etc all have a fairly profound impact on things like mood, but that’s different that saying the mind is not the brain. Social isolation and long periods of darkness also have profound impact on the mind. That doesn’t mean that the night sky or society somehow “is” our mind, or that our minds are somehow housed outside as well as in our brains.
There’s a tendency to belittle things that we understand mechanically, which is why I believe people tend to believe the mind is somehow “beyond” the brain. But we can still have deep respect for the sovereign, spiritual like divinity associated with consciousness while recognizing that it’s all happening within the confined, physical space that constitutes a person’s brain, and that there’s a physical basis for it.
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I don't agree that it was mostly about ideas, Freud's main insight was to deduce the existence of the subconscious mind: i.e. the idea that we don't have direct access to our entire inner world. It was a big departure from the way the mind was conceived till then.
Is current consensus that this "subconscious mind" is an actual thing that exists?
It's trivially true that, while we can observe some of the workings of our mind, we cannot observe all of it.
That part that we can't observe can easily be mapped onto his ideas of the unconscious mind.
"Advances in genetics, neuroscience and psychopharmacology all at once reminded psychiatrists that biology ruled, that talk could be dispensed with, and a truly medical psychiatry could finally emerge" I don't know if this is true for a good chunk of mental illnesses, tbh. How does one use a purely biological model and treatment for PTSD, BPD, ASPD, etc?
Hard to evaluate without being able to read the full article, but Freud has very little to do with modern psychological/psychiatric research.
Side-unrelated note, I wish paywalled sites would at least have the decency to produce an abstract. It's always a sad day when ideas are hidden behind a gatekeeper.
"Advances in genetics, neuroscience and psychopharmacology all at once reminded psychiatrists that biology ruled, that talk could be dispensed with, and a truly medical psychiatry could finally emerge" I don't know if this is true for a good chunk of mental illnesses, tbh. How does one use a purely biological model and treatment for PTSD, BPD, ASPD, etc?
“psychiatry rightly saw mental illness as rooted in biology, more specifically in the brain.”
This statement is far from the big picture, imho.
We've identified that the bulk of neurons rests below the brain, that hormones are being produced elsewhere (e.g. around the heart, or the intestine) that have a dramatic effect on conditions like depression (or lack thereof). See The Second Brain[1] by Michael D. Gershon for a primer on your intestine.
I personally think reducing mental life to the brain is just as shortsighted as reducing a computer to its CPU: sure, you can do CS with such abstractions, but not deal with real-life implementation. It's paper-theory, not applied practice. And purely abstract models have a way of not wanting to fit reality as well as we'd wish...
Ideas that we are what we eat (quite literally so), or that physical exercise helps mental strength, tend to show that even for processes seemingly 'happening' locally in the brain, the whole neural system and by extension the whole body plays a part (if only as "infrastructure", but possibly more so in an "edge / core" fashion — aren't we but a big IS after all like any living system, however esoteric to us the physical processes).
Anyway, not a neuroscientist, maybe just a cheeky dev who likes to challenge ideas, but the whole fantasized body/mind dichotomy is only furthered when we say "oh it's all physical but it's only the brain that affects mental/mind processes". You've just moved the magic black-box from "otherworldly" to "physically located in the brain" — that's better, but not quite there yet.
[1]: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/636974.The_Second_Brain
OP, please conform with HN rules by providing a workaround to the paywall. If there is no workaround, the pay-walled article is not permitted here, per the rules. Thank you. edit: I see this was downvoted. Interesting. October 3 2019 HN rules: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:40QUas... > Are paywalls ok? > It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. > In comments, it's…
This works for me in Firefox's console: $('.body-copy')[0].innerHTML = JSON.parse($$('script[type="application/ld+json"]')[0].firstChild.data).description And I still see the paywall rule in the FAQ.
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This works for me in Firefox's console: $('.body-copy')[0].innerHTML = JSON.parse($$('script[type="application/ld+json"]')[0].firstChild.data).description And I still see the paywall rule in the FAQ.
How did you come up with that snippet?