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Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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post #6

The act didn't bring Blizzard into public dispute. Blizzard banning the player brings Blizzard into public disrepute because it shows that they are cowardly whores willing to do anything for money.

>The act didn't bring Blizzard into public dispute.

Like most things these days, that depends on which "public" you're talking about.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Blizzard should not pick a side. Not picking a side is siding with the status quo, which is Chinese oppression in Hong Kong.

Not picking a side is not allowing political discussion, no matter who you (or they) perceive to be right. Coincidentally, this is also the choice that makes most sense to a corporation which stands to lose a lot from picking a side. Players will likely respond to sensationalist reporting of this case, but forget about it soon after, while the Chinese government is not gonna go easy on Blizzard picking the other side…

But nearly every large company in America engages in political discussion when they talk about diversity, feminism, and inclusion. I think that's a good thing, but it's clearly not the case that these companies shy away from making progressive statements.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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post #21
post #6

The act didn't bring Blizzard into public dispute. Blizzard banning the player brings Blizzard into public disrepute because it shows that they are cowardly whores willing to do anything for money.

> The act didn't bring Blizzard into public dispute. Like most things these days, that depends on which "public" you're talking about.

Do you have any evidence that the free HK statement itself harmed Blizzard's business?

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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"Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image will result in removal from Grandmasters and reduction of the player’s prize total to $0 USD [...]" That's pretty close to "Blizzard can remove you from Grandmasters as soon as you open your mouth". Sad to see such a cowardice from corporations, alth…

Isn't this basically the same with all big corporations these days? If you say unpopular things on your YouTube channel, you will be demonitized.as a way of punishment. In short, either you please big brother, or you will suffer.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Blizzard should not pick a side. Not picking a side is siding with the status quo, which is Chinese oppression in Hong Kong.

Which is exactly how sports leagues operate, be they FIFA, the Olympic Committee, the NFL, the NBA... If you expect them to be the high water mark of social justice, you're going to be deeply disappointed. (Meanwhile, various tech firms have been criticized for picking a side, or allegedly picking a side in social conflicts over the past few years... Damned if you do, damned if you don't, apparently.)

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Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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post #16
post #8

Title is clickbaity. They did it for a political protest during an official Blizzard tournament stream, not for actions on his own stream or something. He put on a gas mask and called for liberation of HK. I'm with him, but I definitely see why Blizzard has the rule in place, and it would not be right to overlook this - they would then have to be OK with others doing other protests. Blizzard should not pick a side.

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It should be noted that before invading Poland, Nazi Germany and Hitler were not unpopular in the US, and even then public support only faded slowly, so that probably would've been a hotter take.

Hindsight is always easier.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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While I agree with the sentiment that is being expressed here (i.e. it's "wrong"). I can't help but think about the fact that he ... simply broke the rules. There is a clear clause in the ToS that states basically "You are working for us. If you say anything that can damage our reputation, we can cease working with you." Which, to me, makes a whole lot of sense to have as a clause.

Probably, but that's not saying much. Anything a player does could in theory damage their reputation (e.g. something ridiculous like saying you like AMD over Nvidia can damage Blizzard's reputation with Nvidia fans). I think the fact that they're choosing to exercise their ToS right in this case does speak to their values rather than it being them just "enforcing rules".

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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post #19

While I agree with the sentiment that is being expressed here (i.e. it's "wrong"). I can't help but think about the fact that he ... simply broke the rules. There is a clear clause in the ToS that states basically "You are working for us. If you say anything that can damage our reputation, we can cease working with you." Which, to me, makes a whole lot of sense to have as a clause.

He didn't damage their reputation. Blizzard shot themselves in the foot.

That's like, totally your opinion. Blizzard has a huge base in China that is largely invisible to us. As a large (gaming) company you want to stay as neutral as possible, or at least that's what I imagine what large PR firms would consult Blizzard to do.

Re: Blizzard bans player from Hearthstone following on-stream Hong Kong protest

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post #16
post #8

Title is clickbaity. They did it for a political protest during an official Blizzard tournament stream, not for actions on his own stream or something. He put on a gas mask and called for liberation of HK. I'm with him, but I definitely see why Blizzard has the rule in place, and it would not be right to overlook this - they would then have to be OK with others doing other protests. Blizzard should not pick a side.

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During nazi Germany, the corporation indeed did not pick a side (ala, IBM's equipment was used to do data processing for the holocaust).

But, it's too far to say that they (IBM) was pro-holocaust.

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