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If you look at purchasing power parity (PPP), the numbers are closer together: $30,859 (Malaysia) and $32,023 (Portugal).
How many MacBook Pros do you get though. If anything, what the software developers might want is likely more expensive in Malaysia than Portugal. Likewise for India.
Fab in India: India is trying to create an indigenous chip-making industry
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Re: Fab in India: India is trying to create an indigenous chip-making industry
#22I really would like an alternative to Shenzhen for cheap manufacturing. Does anyone here have experience with factories located elsewhere?
Re: Fab in India: India is trying to create an indigenous chip-making industry
#23> To the west, it sees its most talented engineers working in Silicon Valley. By pouring millions of dollars into Indian-made semiconductors, India’s government hopes to solve both problems at once. It really can't. Considering the "rootless" nature of Indian urban life, education and society, both culturally and linguistically, the lack of "pull" ensures that any money you pour into its colonial institutions is only…
Re: Fab in India: India is trying to create an indigenous chip-making industry
#24> To the west, it sees its most talented engineers working in Silicon Valley. By pouring millions of dollars into Indian-made semiconductors, India’s government hopes to solve both problems at once. It really can't. Considering the "rootless" nature of Indian urban life, education and society, both culturally and linguistically, the lack of "pull" ensures that any money you pour into its colonial institutions is only…
You vastly underestimate the size and diversity of India. Their middle class is bigger than that of the USA or I think even that of the entire EU. The can have a low rate on pretty much every statistic, while still having a higher total amount of it than us, simply due to.the sheer size of people. They could have an entire state, more modern, rich and with more people than Germany, while keeping their current statist…
Re: Fab in India: India is trying to create an indigenous chip-making industry
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Their middle class is bigger than that of the USA or I think even that of the entire EU. According to Wikipedia: "Indian middle class is 3% or 40 million of Indian population." That's not a whole lot of people and definitely not comparable to North America or Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_of_living_in_India
The same article has other stat that says anywhere between 30-300 million are considered middle class. Is there a consensus among economists on what the real number is ?
Re: Fab in India: India is trying to create an indigenous chip-making industry
#26I really would like an alternative to Shenzhen for cheap manufacturing. Does anyone here have experience with factories located elsewhere?
You have to effectively import everything from China, and just do final assembly there. I see close to no point doing that when local inputs cannot reach even 10% of the value.
Re: Fab in India: India is trying to create an indigenous chip-making industry
#27I'm very excited about India's ambitions. It would not only be meaningful for India, but for many people around the world. We are lacking open chips, and project Shakti is on a trajectory to solve a part of that. I wonder when GCC learns to use the source code of the hardware along with the source code of the software to optimize the binary with full knowledge of the system.
Down to the RTL, sure. But a truly open competitive chip, never ever.
You might get one on some ancient process from 20 years ago, which will be handily outclassed in every single metric except openness, which people make noise about but don't actually pay for (so no business case).
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I see a lot of flak given to Foxconn (maybe because of them being Chinese). What is your opinion on the recent Facebook suicide? Also the articles on mental damage moderating articles in Facebook etc.
Re: Fab in India: India is trying to create an indigenous chip-making industry
#29I really would like an alternative to Shenzhen for cheap manufacturing. Does anyone here have experience with factories located elsewhere?
Have experience in Vietnam. Some clients been asking for manufacturing there, but often get surprised that it will both be harder and cost the more than in China. Still some persist, and do that. You have to effectively import everything from China, and just do final assembly there. I see close to no point doing that when local inputs cannot reach even 10% of the value.
Re: Fab in India: India is trying to create an indigenous chip-making industry
#30I really would like an alternative to Shenzhen for cheap manufacturing. Does anyone here have experience with factories located elsewhere?
I regularly quote PCBAs in different countries. If you are looking for any place as cheap as China, I can't say that such a place exists. The only way that the math works out is by building the product yourself with a cheap SMT line. Using a domestic CM is a non-starter for a low-margin consumer product.