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Apple has paid over $2 billion to app developers, $12 billion to record labels

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Re: Apple has paid over $2 billion to app developers, $12 billion to record labels

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Apple didn't pay anybody; the users paid, Apple skimmed, the developer got what was left over. I'd like to see the headline: Apple leeches off of millions of developers.

Yes, Apple created none of the value at all, and has no right to capture any of the value. They do nothing.

Re: Apple has paid over $2 billion to app developers, $12 billion to record labels

#22

Apple didn't pay anybody; the users paid, Apple skimmed, the developer got what was left over. I'd like to see the headline: Apple leeches off of millions of developers.

They're a middle man providing a service that has taken different forms in the past. You can be cynical, but realistically their goal is to make a profit by providing a service which has it's own costs to cover. How much would those developers have reaped without their service?

Re: Apple has paid over $2 billion to app developers, $12 billion to record labels

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Think about this rationally: How much software do you actively use on your computer? I use perhaps 20 types of software. In total, I may have used 50 or 60 different software in my life. In contrast, I have about 4000 songs. One conclusion that one could make from that is that the app market will stop growing at some point because people will have the software they need. Seems like the logical step. But I'm in the ap…

> Those are consumable software and they are the most popular.

I've heard from successful app marketers that the target audience for the App Store is 13 to 14-yr old kids, using their parents credit card on their iTunes accounts.

Apps that are better than anything Apple makes will always do well[1]. But I think we should lower our "standards", our hubris and make something of entertainment value. Something that makes 13 to 14-yr olds look cool. Because peer approval and recognition is everything at that age for most people of that age.

The App Market (Android) and App Store (iOS) and Marketplace (Windows 7) let you reach teenage consumers in a way that doesn't require much marketing, just the right product at the right time.

[1] http://www.macrumors.com/2010/12/28/camera-reaches-over-7800...

Re: Apple has paid over $2 billion to app developers, $12 billion to record labels

#24

Apple didn't pay anybody; the users paid, Apple skimmed, the developer got what was left over. I'd like to see the headline: Apple leeches off of millions of developers.

They're a middle man providing a service that has taken different forms in the past. You can be cynical, but realistically their goal is to make a profit by providing a service which has it's own costs to cover. How much would those developers have reaped without their service?

Lots, lots more. If the Apple their devices weren't monopolistically locked down, or the store was an open market.

Really, you think its worth their cut, just to operate the store? How much overhead would it take you to put up a web store? They only get away with it because they aren't Microsoft.

Re: Apple has paid over $2 billion to app developers, $12 billion to record labels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're a middle man providing a service that has taken different forms in the past. You can be cynical, but realistically their goal is to make a profit by providing a service which has it's own costs to cover. How much would those developers have reaped without their service?

Lots, lots more. If the Apple their devices weren't monopolistically locked down, or the store was an open market. Really, you think its worth their cut, just to operate the store? How much overhead would it take you to put up a web store? They only get away with it because they aren't Microsoft.

> Really, you think its worth their cut, just to operate the store?

That's not all they do, though. They build the platform and heavily market it, too.

Re: Apple has paid over $2 billion to app developers, $12 billion to record labels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots, lots more. If the Apple their devices weren't monopolistically locked down, or the store was an open market. Really, you think its worth their cut, just to operate the store? How much overhead would it take you to put up a web store? They only get away with it because they aren't Microsoft.

> Really, you think its worth their cut, just to operate the store? That's not all they do, though. They build the platform and heavily market it, too.

They get paid for their hardware. Everybody else does too - phones, Android. Apple adds to that a 'company store' model that is unjustified.

They do it only because they can get away with it.

Re: Apple has paid over $2 billion to app developers, $12 billion to record labels

#27

Apple didn't pay anybody; the users paid, Apple skimmed, the developer got what was left over. I'd like to see the headline: Apple leeches off of millions of developers.

That's a really bad attitude to have.

Does your grocery store pay its suppliers, or does it merely skim and give the farmers what's left over?

If Apple provided no value in the equation you might have a stronger case, but as it is they handle an awful lot, from payment processing to marketing to distribution.

Apple is providing you an audience that's ready to buy, that has cash in hand, and all you have to do is bang out an app they'll hit the "Buy Now" button for. Sounds to me like developers are the ones doing the skimming, at least by your definition.

Re: Apple has paid over $2 billion to app developers, $12 billion to record labels

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post #9

Think about this rationally: How much software do you actively use on your computer? I use perhaps 20 types of software. In total, I may have used 50 or 60 different software in my life. In contrast, I have about 4000 songs. One conclusion that one could make from that is that the app market will stop growing at some point because people will have the software they need. Seems like the logical step. But I'm in the ap…

Are your apps mostly free or paid?

Is there a link that contains list of your mobile apps?
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