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Microsoft announces new Surface Duo phone

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Re: Microsoft announces new Surface Duo phone

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Post by pdpi »

EnderMB wrote: post #18

I really hope that we see a single-screen Surface phone in the future. IMO, Microsoft have done a fantastic job with the Surface Book. If they could replicate that high-end build quality while providing a solid feature set and a clean Android build, I can't see it not selling well. Throw a headphone jack in, and I'd wait in line for it! The dual screen is interesting, but I don't see its use just yet.

Speaking of the Surface Book, my aging MacBook needs replacing, and I was interested in seeing a Surface Book 3 release as an alternative. Sad it didn't materialise.

Re: Microsoft announces new Surface Duo phone

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Post by bhauer »

pdpi wrote: post #21
EnderMB wrote: post #18

I really hope that we see a single-screen Surface phone in the future. IMO, Microsoft have done a fantastic job with the Surface Book. If they could replicate that high-end build quality while providing a solid feature set and a clean Android build, I can't see it not selling well. Throw a headphone jack in, and I'd wait in line for it! The dual screen is interesting, but I don't see its use just yet.

Speaking of the Surface Book, my aging MacBook needs replacing, and I was interested in seeing a Surface Book 3 release as an alternative. Sad it didn't materialise.

The Surface Laptop 3 looks very compelling though, especially with the Ryzen option.

Re: Microsoft announces new Surface Duo phone

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Post by Barrin92 »

atjamielittle wrote: post #17

It took almost 30 years since the kernel was released, but Microsoft is officially releasing something with a Linux based operating system. Pretty wild to think about.

it's interesting how in the last few years the Microsoft and Linux/Android ecosystems seem to developer side-by-side.

Personally I've replaced my last macbook with the surface and my iphone with an android phone, use mostly linux or windows with WSL these days and I see less and less apple products in particular among developers where the windows/linux combo seems to become more prevalent, at least anecdotally.

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Post by VikingCoder »

pdimitar wrote: post #24

Not buying unless it runs [fixed and improved] Windows 10 mobile. I'm still dreaming of a Lumia 950 XL with a good app store...

Then you're not buying. "It runs Android and will release holiday 2020" Literally the first line in the article.

Re: Microsoft announces new Surface Duo phone

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Post by snuxoll »

atjamielittle wrote: post #17

It took almost 30 years since the kernel was released, but Microsoft is officially releasing something with a Linux based operating system. Pretty wild to think about.

There’s the SONIC network stuff too. Though that’s not a consumer product.

Re: Microsoft announces new Surface Duo phone

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Post by sequence7 »

bhauer wrote: post #16
aminecodes wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already said it runs on Android, whith what looks like a heavy Microsoft like skin on top.

Indeed they did, but this is a device still in development, to be released late 2020. I would not be surprised if the Windows 10 X team is working to make it at least possible to run 10 X on the smaller device. I'd much prefer 10 X with an Android subsystem. But like I said, I'll pick one up regardless.

I'm sure it could run 10 X easily enough, the problem is the same problem that killed the Windows Phone ecosystem. No one's developing mobile/touch apps for anything other than Android and iOS. Windows has been fully touch enabled for years now but still there are almost no apps that take advantage of that, there isn't even a decent kindle app in the microsoft store. I wish this wasn't true but the truth is mobile belongs to Apple and Google and tablets belong to Apple.

Re: Microsoft announces new Surface Duo phone

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Post by cptskippy »

mc32 wrote: post #14
bhauer wrote: post #6

I'm going to pick one up regardless, but if they can bring Windows 10 X to this device, and provide a docking experience that expands to approximate a full PC, the result would be fantastic.

It looks nice in theory. I’d like to see it also support some version of win10. I might get one regardless, but if it ran win10, it’d be a slam dunk.

Google introduced project Treble in Android O and P to allow Android to work against a HAL to basically decouple the underlying Linux Kernel and drivers from the over arching Android Framework.

There was speculation that this would enable Google to swap out the Linux Kernel for Fuschia when it becomes available.

The Windows NT Kernel has had a HAL and the ability to do this since it's inception in the 90s. Microsoft has been toying around with WSL on the desktop, what are the chances that they just beat Google to the punch and are running Android on the Windows Kernel?

How crazy would it be if WSL was just a cover for getting Android running ontop the Windows Kernel?

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