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Leaked Zuckerberg audio: 'You go to the mat and you fight'

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post #6

The full transcript is on the verge https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/1/20892354/mark-zuckerberg-...

That was submitted yesterday, but failed to gain traction. It appears that the clickbait headline used by BBC got more attention from HN.

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> "It just doesn't really make sense for me to go to hearings in every single country that wants to have me show up and, frankly, doesn't have jurisdiction to demand that."

While this is technically true, I am not quite sure that it is the way to manage this kind of relationship.

As European I am pretty pissed off just by this affirmation.

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That's actually the first time where Zuck officially acknowledges breaking up Fb and Google is a possibility, placing this onto the agenda for future (or even current) US administration and campaigns apart from Elizabeth Warrens plans. Fb should never have been allowed to buy WhatsApp, nor should've Google's DoubleClick and YouTube acquisition been allowed.

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post #14

>>>There's no bombshell revelation in this leak Oh boy is that an understatement. Of course Zuck's strategy if the government attempts to break up Facebook for antitrust or whatever else they can spin together is to fight it legally. Of course his preference is going to be for a presidential candidate who hasn't made an overt commitment to force that break up. There's really no there, there.

Yeah, when I first saw the headlines yesterday, I plunged, happy to have more fodder against a guy as consider really nefarious to the whole internet ecosystem. But the actual quotes are underwhelming. "Warren wants to break our company. Well, we will go to the courts if she tries." is not exactly a shocking reaction. You don't exactly expect him to agree with Warren's position there.

The idea that Zuckerberg would have ever said anything in a company all hands meetings, that would be shocking if publicly revealed, would suggest a poor lack of planning. Though I suppose he likely speaks rather candidly at these weekly all hands, he has probably always considered this a possibility. That's why he had no issue taking ownership of it, when it leaked. It isn't that damning to say you'll go to bat for the company you founded, if necessary.

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post #22

> "It just doesn't really make sense for me to go to hearings in every single country that wants to have me show up and, frankly, doesn't have jurisdiction to demand that." While this is technically true, I am not quite sure that it is the way to manage this kind of relationship. As European I am pretty pissed off just by this affirmation.

> doesn't have jurisdiction to demand that."

I think the EU showed how powerful it is, not it might not have jurisdiction over Facebook's headquarters but they certainly do have over their local businesses

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post #19

I have to say, as someone who's been somewhat critical of Facebook's dealings for the past years, I read the entire thing and I can't pick up on anything that doesn't seem like a reasonable thing to say to your team. Is anyone able to educate me on why there seem to be some air of hawks swooping on Zuckerberg because of this?

Because taking a single line out of context is great clickbait. The entire transcript on the verge was posted on HN yesterday and died with 10 upvotes and no comments. This story is much less interesting with context.

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> He repeatedly refused to attend meetings with politicians in the UK, sending other Facebook representatives in his place. "I did hearings in the US. I did hearings in the EU," he said. "It just doesn't really make sense for me to go to hearings in every single country that wants to have me show up [...]"

Not sure how Brexit supporters feel about that.

Re: Leaked Zuckerberg audio: 'You go to the mat and you fight'

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post #19

I have to say, as someone who's been somewhat critical of Facebook's dealings for the past years, I read the entire thing and I can't pick up on anything that doesn't seem like a reasonable thing to say to your team. Is anyone able to educate me on why there seem to be some air of hawks swooping on Zuckerberg because of this?

There isn't anything. Zuckerberg is only saying what you would expect from a sane business leader.

This is pure political journalism.

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