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A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Kind of sickening how he builds up his ego and tells him he loves him. Seems like that kind of treatment could potentially skew the accuracy of the confession. “Hmm, I like being loved and praised and fed milkshakes here in prison, I’m going to keep talking, even if it isn’t true!”

Very few details about the confirmations of the confessions here, and a lot of insistence that Little has a "photographic memory" a pseudoscientific claim which implies we shouldn't question whether these confessions are real. There is a mutual relationship here: Little gets company, attention, and praise, police get to wipe 57 cases off their books that they have no intention of ever trying in a court, and this part…

It's so weird to be deeply cynical about the detective's obviously cynical relationship with the killer.

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Pressed about his life story, Little traced the urge to kill to his youth. He said he got his first erection in kindergarten when he watched his teacher touch her neck. Later in grade school, he dreamed of killing a girl who stroked her neck while teasing him. He said it, but I have trouble believing that. There had to be something before that, perhaps something too far back to remember?

Let's imagine a hypothetical. Imagine we take a fresh planet, mostly identical to Earth. And we populate it with 1 billion infants, a billion robotic baby sitters, and no external influence. Our robotic Rosies will all behave identically and simply ensure the children do not starve and receive a homogeneous education. All will also be raised in mostly homogeneous settings. Do you believe that there would be no murder…

It's also possible he's just lying. If he's naturally a psychopath like you say, doesn't that mean he's predisposed towards lying? It's not like he's punished for lying or rewarded for telling the truth - we really have no way to corroborate any of this.

I'm not saying your theory isn't plausible, but what makes it any more likely than him just lying?

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very few details about the confirmations of the confessions here, and a lot of insistence that Little has a "photographic memory" a pseudoscientific claim which implies we shouldn't question whether these confessions are real. There is a mutual relationship here: Little gets company, attention, and praise, police get to wipe 57 cases off their books that they have no intention of ever trying in a court, and this part…

It's so weird to be deeply cynical about the detective's obviously cynical relationship with the killer.

This ranger is teaching his techniques to police officers.

These techniques may be useful for serial killers (although we don't know, there's no research) but we know these interrogation techniques have caused many miscarriages of justice.

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's true, he would've talked a long time ago. He refused to talk to many investigators from various states who also could've gotten the same letter not seeking the death penalty (presuming the guy was already convicted for life), only Holland got him to talk. So, yes Holland is partly if not entirely responsible for getting him to talk.

I read the article, Holland definitely got the guy to talk through unconventional means. He has killers draw their victims. He seems unaffected by the flat way the killer describes his victims. It’s almost like becoming the killers “advocate” (lack of a better word) instead of prosecutor.

I’m not claiming you’re wrong; I’m just curious—are his methods actually unconventional? Once a person is serving a life sentence (nothing to lose), and there’s nothing his cooperation can do to get him out of prison (nothing to gain), it seems pretty obvious to me that anyone wanting to work with him would need to try something like what Holland has done.

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Pressed about his life story, Little traced the urge to kill to his youth. He said he got his first erection in kindergarten when he watched his teacher touch her neck. Later in grade school, he dreamed of killing a girl who stroked her neck while teasing him. He said it, but I have trouble believing that. There had to be something before that, perhaps something too far back to remember?

Let's imagine a hypothetical. Imagine we take a fresh planet, mostly identical to Earth. And we populate it with 1 billion infants, a billion robotic baby sitters, and no external influence. Our robotic Rosies will all behave identically and simply ensure the children do not starve and receive a homogeneous education. All will also be raised in mostly homogeneous settings. Do you believe that there would be no murder…

>> Let's imagine a hypothetical. Imagine we take a fresh planet, mostly identical to Earth. And we populate it with 1 billion infants, a billion robotic baby sitters, and no external influence. Our robotic Rosies will all behave identically and simply ensure the children do not starve and receive a homogeneous education. All will also be raised in mostly homogeneous settings. Do you believe that there would be no murderers, or others engaged in grossly deviant behavior in this world? ... This hypothetical enacted would directly result in chaos. There is no possibility of raising human beings to be civilized without human beings doing the raising.

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Totally unrelated to the article (which I enjoyed), but the LA Times website continuously jumped up and down on my iPad. I suspect ads reloading above or below the fold. Incredibly annoying!

On iOS and the reader mode makes long articles like this much easier to read. I don’t use it enough myself but it’s quite handy.

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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It's amazing how can a professional solve this cases where others couldn't. Why there is so much hate towards women in US? I mean, particularly, these serial killers. Cases like this are rarely seen in South America, where violence has other drives (many times much less psychological).

Unfortunately (I am South American) I think you are wrong. Some of the most prolific serial killers have been South Smerican, but serial killers are not such a popular topic on the news here so it's not as widely known. I would think it's also logical that serial killers tend to focus on women and children because they are generally easier to overpower than another male. There is probably also a sexual component to k…

Macabre and strange list. It's missing anyone who murdered 6-9 people. For example this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Rolling

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Pressed about his life story, Little traced the urge to kill to his youth. He said he got his first erection in kindergarten when he watched his teacher touch her neck. Later in grade school, he dreamed of killing a girl who stroked her neck while teasing him. He said it, but I have trouble believing that. There had to be something before that, perhaps something too far back to remember?

It shouldn't be that hard to believe. The reality is some people are born with biologically or structurally dysfunctional brains. Is it hard for you to believe that someone could be born with schizophrenia? What about autism? What about poor impulse control? When you think about the complicated interplay of social interaction in HEALTHY humans, which includes their innate capacity for violence (We definitely are part…

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Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Pressed about his life story, Little traced the urge to kill to his youth. He said he got his first erection in kindergarten when he watched his teacher touch her neck. Later in grade school, he dreamed of killing a girl who stroked her neck while teasing him. He said it, but I have trouble believing that. There had to be something before that, perhaps something too far back to remember?

It shouldn't be that hard to believe. The reality is some people are born with biologically or structurally dysfunctional brains. Is it hard for you to believe that someone could be born with schizophrenia? What about autism? What about poor impulse control? When you think about the complicated interplay of social interaction in HEALTHY humans, which includes their innate capacity for violence (We definitely are part…

You are not "born" with any of these. You are born with a genetic predisposition, for example with genetic variants that increase the risk of schizophrenia, but there are no certainties. It is an interplay between genetics and the environment, both genetic and environmental factors play a role in the development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Causes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics_of_schizophrenia#S...

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Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Totally unrelated to the article (which I enjoyed), but the LA Times website continuously jumped up and down on my iPad. I suspect ads reloading above or below the fold. Incredibly annoying!

Yes. I just updated my iphone to iOS 13 and thought maybe it’s a bug. No idea why you’re being downvoted.
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