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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by gameswithgo »

AcerbicZero wrote: post #15

I kinda wish Tesla made a few regular petrol cars for the enthusiast type such as myself, as this sounds like a ton of neat technology to play around with. I'm just not in the market for an electric car, unfortunately. Edit: By enthusiast, I mean track/motorsport/etc enthusiast. I borrowed a Model S from a friend of mine for a few days and while I enjoyed it, it wasn't the most exciting drive, and I can't imagine it…

I used to be a huge enthusiast, drove mr2s, z06 corvettes, a wrx, bmw 3 series, autocrossed the competitively.

Driving an electric tesla made all of those cars feel utterly dumb.

If you drive cross country a lot or do long track sessions, I get it, tesla won't work well, but if you don't think an enthusiast would like a tesla, give one a try.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Negitivefrags »

xxpor wrote: post #19
Negitivefrags wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My hope is that now that Spotify is available to Americans (where the people who develop the software are) the integration will no longer be total garbage. The Spotify integration in v9 is so non-functional for me that I just use Bluetooth. It seems to have zero ability to retry on network failure, and once it’s failed, it basically doesn’t work again on that trip unless you want to reboot the whole MCU. Another reas…

>My hope is that now that Spotify is available to Americans (where the people who develop the software are) I thought Spotify dev was in Sweden, is that not the case?

I’m talking about the Tesla software developers, not Spotify.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

andrewmunsell wrote: post #18
ncr100 wrote: post #14

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Literally - you stop holding it until after you are dead. There must be additional safety features in the software to avoid collision with obstacles? Sonar sensors?

The newest version of Summon uses the cameras and I'm guessing the ultrasonic/radar to actually avoid obstacles, but is controlled by the app (you have to be holding the button down in the app)

They are one digital steering knob away from turning the whole thing into an 500 Hp RC car.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

Limb wrote: post #9
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #2

"Those using Smart Summon must remain responsible for the car and monitor it and its surroundings at all times. " Does this come with an "oh god, stop!" button of some sort?

I wonder what happens if your phone freezes and you can't push the "oh god, stop!" button? Would you still be at fault?

I guess it's an "keep going" button that you have to hold down, but still, if you're phone freezes - is there a fail state we can be absolutely certain of between the phone and the car?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by stetrain »

ncr100 wrote: post #14
defap wrote: post #10

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I believe it's controlled by a sort of dead man's switch, i.e. you must continuously hold down a button for the car to move.

Literally - you stop holding it until after you are dead. There must be additional safety features in the software to avoid collision with obstacles? Sonar sensors?

Yes, the 'hold the button' is a final liability layer on top of all of the onboard collision avoidance.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by spectrum1234 »

gameswithgo wrote: post #21
AcerbicZero wrote: post #15

I kinda wish Tesla made a few regular petrol cars for the enthusiast type such as myself, as this sounds like a ton of neat technology to play around with. I'm just not in the market for an electric car, unfortunately. Edit: By enthusiast, I mean track/motorsport/etc enthusiast. I borrowed a Model S from a friend of mine for a few days and while I enjoyed it, it wasn't the most exciting drive, and I can't imagine it…

I used to be a huge enthusiast, drove mr2s, z06 corvettes, a wrx, bmw 3 series, autocrossed the competitively. Driving an electric tesla made all of those cars feel utterly dumb . If you drive cross country a lot or do long track sessions, I get it, tesla won't work well, but if you don't think an enthusiast would like a tesla, give one a try.

Right unless you routinely go on 500+ mile trips with a longer range Tesla or 400+ mile trips with the shorter range models there is no need for a gas car. I road trip a decent amount but I've released 4-5 hour drives aren't really an issue.

And of course those trips are possible you'd just need to stop 1-3 times for 10-15 mins (you charge faster at lower batter % vs fill up more range once). Now if you want to go 2x your battery range, then you actually start to have a mild inconvenience with charging time.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by the8472 »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #25
Limb wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what happens if your phone freezes and you can't push the "oh god, stop!" button? Would you still be at fault?

I guess it's an "keep going" button that you have to hold down, but still, if you're phone freezes - is there a fail state we can be absolutely certain of between the phone and the car?

> we can be absolutely certain

Such a thing does not exist. You can only add more nines (e.g. heartbeats, check sensor jitter etc.). At some point you're more likely to be ran over by another car than the tesla slowly, patiently crushing you at 2km/h.

Of course that doesn't mean tesla is actually that reliable.

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