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Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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Re: Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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This can be summed up pretty easily. The TI graphing calculator has no internet access and no ability to store notes. Neither ability can be easily added. As long as that is the case, they will win, because the test companies don't want to deal with people having internet access and notes. Now if Apple/Android made a simple way for a test proctor to put your phone into a single app only that you couldn't easily break…

You can easily store notes on a TI calculator. I had a TI-85 in college, and was occasionally guilty of writing TI-BASIC programs to make tests easier (for example, I had one which computed Euler's method).

Most test proctors make you clear your memory before a test in high school. In college they don't care as much because they are used to making "open book tests".

Re: Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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Back in the Android 2.0 days, a guy had a set of TI emulators which, when loaded with the ROM downloadable directly off of TI's website, perfectly replicated several well-known TI calculator models. Think the one I used got shut down, but there's a number of newer ones:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Bisha.TI89...

I already owned a TI calculator at the time, it was just nice not to carry it around. TI probably would still make good money selling an official version.

Re: Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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TI calculators are the biggest technology racket in education. The fact alone that most schools won't allow the use of Casio equivalents deserves an anti-trust investigation. There are programs that even dictate which TI model is accepted.

The textbook racket is bigger in dollars and just as exploitative. Follett bought a company I worked for. One of their first actions was to shut down the business of making high quality, affordable alternative teaching content and tools, greatly inconveniencing the professors who had been bold enough to use the product.

Re: Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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TI calculators are the biggest technology racket in education. The fact alone that most schools won't allow the use of Casio equivalents deserves an anti-trust investigation. There are programs that even dictate which TI model is accepted.

"There are programs that even dictate which TI model is accepted."

At this point in 2019, with such cheap computation, the school calculator lines are being sold as much on what they don't do as what they do.

Around 1994 or 1995, I had an HP-48G calculator, a real scientific programmable calculator meant for engineers and scientists, where the rest of the class had the TI line of school calculators. The HP-48G could do most of the integration problems we had, symbolically. IIRC, there were a few high school integration problems it couldn't do, but it did a pretty good job. And it was a bottom-of-the-line, stuck on an embedded system computer algebra system even at the time. It only goes up from there.

You don't want the students to be rolling into the SATs with computer algebra systems that can solve all the problems on the exam. This is also why they can't, for instance, bring in an Android system running the TI in emulation; it's not about doing what the TI calculator can do, it's about not being able to reach Wolfram Alpha.

The model restrictions are about the test authors being sure they know what's up.

(On the plus side, if you want to teach students how to use computers well, leave them a loophole where they can bring in their android phones, install a linux app, run Sage[1] from within that, and figure out how to use it to solve their high school calculus problems. You will learn something students, one way or another!)

[1]: http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/reference/calculus/sage/symb...

Re: Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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TI calculators are the biggest technology racket in education. The fact alone that most schools won't allow the use of Casio equivalents deserves an anti-trust investigation. There are programs that even dictate which TI model is accepted.

When I was taking my AP finals, the school I'll attend them in gave me a list of models they will accept. My school does NOT have AP system, so I had to take it in a different school (which is the only school supports it in my country), thus I had 0 leverage. I didn't have one of the calculators they allow (some other Casio model), I called them and they told me I'll be rejected to take the exam. I had to buy another…

damn bro

Re: Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can easily store notes on a TI calculator. I had a TI-85 in college, and was occasionally guilty of writing TI-BASIC programs to make tests easier (for example, I had one which computed Euler's method).

Most test proctors make you clear your memory before a test in high school. In college they don't care as much because they are used to making "open book tests".

The trick with those is you can make a TI-BASIC program that will make it look like you cleared the memory - fake empty "programs" list and all. There were a few tiny details you couldn't replicate like the highlighting animation, but they never noticed when I did it.

Re: Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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I picked up the relatively new HP Prime in the last 6 months and the ability to do 3D graphics with a touchscreen is amazing and really gives a great appreciative for the underlying functions you are plotting. Would have loved to have something like this in my advanced math classes.

So much better than the pretty terrible TI series by comparison.

Re: Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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Casio makes several graphing calculators that are cheaper and faster than the TIs. $70 gets you the top color one that can run Python programs and is test compliant - it has a flashing test mode that disables all user memory. But the $35 b&w one works just as well for tests. So low income parents can get a good graphing calculator that does it all for around 1/4 the price of the recommended TIs.

Students fear Casio because the button pressing procedures are slightly different than TI and TI also has cleverly captured the textbook market, with TI specific instructions only found in many courses, textbooks, and teacher materials.

Below $35, there's $15 Casio models that can do numerical integration, solve equations, and find roots, enabling students to do most all things required for say AP Calculus exams easily, and the couple of questions that involve looking at the graph can usually be done by interpreting the critical points. One can get a 5 on the AP Calculus with a $15 calculator, though a couple questions will be slower and that might lose a few points, but not many because there's only a few questions like that. Most calculator required questions on various tests don't need the graphing capability at all even though a graphic calculator is recommended for the test.

Serious bad-asses can also take calculator required tests with no calculator and attempt to still get the highest score, and some manage to do this. College Board requires you to sign a waiver when you do this since the test center will normally lend you some random calculator and wish you the best.

Re: Is the era of the $100 graphing calculator coming to an end?

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most test proctors make you clear your memory before a test in high school. In college they don't care as much because they are used to making "open book tests".

The trick with those is you can make a TI-BASIC program that will make it look like you cleared the memory - fake empty "programs" list and all. There were a few tiny details you couldn't replicate like the highlighting animation, but they never noticed when I did it.

I in fact did this in high school. But now that the current high school teachers are people my age who actually grew up using the calculators, they are wise to that ploy. :)
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