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Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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The last remaining video rental stores are closing down just as streaming services become so fragmented that making a short trip to rent any major film or TV series you want for a few dollars is starting to look okay again.

You’ve never been able to get many of the most popular movies from a streaming service without paying for them individually. Netflix’s streaming catalog of popular movies has never been that great.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Why don't major services (Netflix, Disney, HULU, etc) come together to build a best of breed shared service, that operates vendor-neutrally, and each gets to keep all the profits from people watching their stuff?

Each could still have its own promotions, bundles, etc (e.g. pay X more to watch new movies from Disney), but at least the base proposition can have a single subscription price and some pay as you consume more scheme, single analytics, etc.

In my ideal autocratic regime, they'd be forced to work under such a scheme, like power companies are forced to ultimately connect to the same grid (at least in some countries).

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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post #10

Streaming "choices"? It's fragmentation and rent-seeking behavior. It is simply a case of the supply not meeting the demand at a reasonable price point, when there is an alternative.

Everyone wanted to get rid of the cable bundle and have channels a la carte. Be careful what you ask for.

No. Everyone wanted to get rid of both the cable bundle and channels. People just want on-demand access to whatever shows.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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"May" drive them back? This has already happened in my circles.. People who had cut the cord but all but walked away from casual piracy and signed up for Netflix and HBO (and probably Prime Video because they had Amazon Prime already) are openly talking about the fact they're definitely not signing up for more streaming services, and are seeking out torrenting again for the stuff that's being pulled from Netflix (esp…

“Your circle” unless it includes families with small kids, isn’t Disney’s primary audience. Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a…

>Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a month to just have the convenience of Disney+ to be a glorified babysitter.

Depending on the country, you'd be surprised.

I'm not sure why Disney has the hold it has in the US, but in most of Europe I know it's nothing special (to the point of being a "must have" brand). Kids can just sit in front of regular kids TV channels. And normal middle class families can and do pirate all the time...

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post #5

My ISP (UK, Sky) has recently started blocking torrent/magnet sites. So I'm not convinced.

Finding the sites themselves is easy with a VPN, reverse SSH shell or proxy. Make sure all of your torrents are encrypted and it'll be more difficult for them to actively block packets (which is the way it will eventually go).

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post #6

"May" drive them back? This has already happened in my circles.. People who had cut the cord but all but walked away from casual piracy and signed up for Netflix and HBO (and probably Prime Video because they had Amazon Prime already) are openly talking about the fact they're definitely not signing up for more streaming services, and are seeking out torrenting again for the stuff that's being pulled from Netflix (esp…

“Your circle” unless it includes families with small kids, isn’t Disney’s primary audience. Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a…

Pirating shows and putting them on an external drive that you plug on any TV and can take with you on trips works fine and most normal middle class people can manage it though.

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post #6

"May" drive them back? This has already happened in my circles.. People who had cut the cord but all but walked away from casual piracy and signed up for Netflix and HBO (and probably Prime Video because they had Amazon Prime already) are openly talking about the fact they're definitely not signing up for more streaming services, and are seeking out torrenting again for the stuff that's being pulled from Netflix (esp…

“Your circle” unless it includes families with small kids, isn’t Disney’s primary audience. Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a…

For Disney's kids stuff sure, but they're also pulling Marvel movies and Fox shows from Netflix

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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The problem is not to many streaming choices but the increasing fragmentation of which videos are available on which platforms.

IMHO the increasing coupling of video producers and streaming services isn't a good idea at all as it again produces (quasi)monopoles for certain brands/shows (e.g. Disney).

Through then IMHO the trend of tech companies increasingly expanding in a way which couples different kind products together is a worrisome trend (e.g. hardware producer couples with os producer coupled with application producer, or content producer coupled with content delivery services, or "shared" online marked places coupled with them starting to sell their own "featured" products, or coupling of ebook store with ebook reader, etc.).

My guess is that this will lead to increasingly large companies with increasingly less chances for real competition giving this companies more and more (mainly implicit) power over people and economy and with this also influence in politic.

Sure currently for streaming services it looks like it will lead to better competition, but my guess is that this won't be long term and in a view years we will be left with a oligopol of a small number of companies now dominating both production and distribution of high quality video entertainment content, without there being any real chance for any new competition (except if there is some form of interactive video revolution (I don't mean video games) coming from outside the video industry.

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