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Recession Already Grips Corners of U.S., Menacing Trump’s 2020 Bid

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Re: Recession Already Grips Corners of U.S., Menacing Trump’s 2020 Bid

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The infographic shows 4 of Trump's swing states with job gains vs. 3 with job losses. My US geography isn't perfect, but it looks like losses vs. gains across states are pretty equal. I read the whole article, they don't do a great job backing up their thesis, instead using anecdotes. > His advisers argue that the blame for any slowdown rests with a Federal Reserve that last year hiked interest rates too quickly and…

> They're not wrong. They're not right, either. What's far more important for farmers and loan officers is a market for selling the product. Normally it's sort of silly to point a finger at the president for larger market trends, but if ever culpability for market trends could be laid at a president's feet, it'd be for something exactly like a poorly executed trade war. On the other hand, the market has been on a nea…

> The real story is that the tax cuts did squat to help the economy, and instead resulted in extraordinary deficits, precisely as predicated by everybody whose professional credibility was on the line.

This is a very partisan opinion. Objectively assessing how much the tax cuts helped or didn't help the economy is impossible, but seeing what professionals predicted and then observed is not. For example the Congress has the Joint Committee on Taxation [1], whose job is to estimate the impact of various tax cuts (among other things). Their assessment was an impact on GDP of about 0.8% on average for the first decade [2]. Despite this, they also predicted a one trillion reduction in revenues overall (for the first decade). Separately, the Congressional Budget Office (which in this case has overlapping duties with the JCT), predicted a reduction in revenues of about 1.4 trillion for one decade [3] and an average impact on real GDP of 0.7% over the same period [4].

>and instead resulted in extraordinary deficits

The tax cuts did increased the deficits, but the main reason for the deficit increase is the military spending. To be more precise, the deficit increased by $194 BN between 2016 and 2018 ([5],[6]), and the military spending has increased by $123 BN over the same period, [7].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress_Joint_C... [2] https://www.jct.gov/publications.html?func=startdown&id=5045

[3] https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53312

[4] https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53787

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_federal_bud...

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_federal_bud...

[7] https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-military-budget-components-ch...

Re: Recession Already Grips Corners of U.S., Menacing Trump’s 2020 Bid

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Trump has basically nuked the farmers... so watch them all vote him out.

The farmers actually have doubled down on Trump and believe conspiracies that the USDA is just out to get him. [1]

Never thought I’d actually witness the emperor has no clothes.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/10/reuters-america-many-u-s-far...

Re: Recession Already Grips Corners of U.S., Menacing Trump’s 2020 Bid

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Trump has basically nuked the farmers... so watch them all vote him out.

The farmers actually have doubled down on Trump and believe conspiracies that the USDA is just out to get him. [1] Never thought I’d actually witness the emperor has no clothes. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/10/reuters-america-many-u-s-far...

He is down 10% in farm support and that number will continue to drop as the new reality continues to set in over the next year.
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