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Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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Has anyone asked why in the Linux Kernel there has been an extraordinary amount of work on Huawei in a few key networking files? In fact in such file the changelog since 2016 mentions Huawei more than any other proper noun combined.

The person who is in charge of this module...runs two small sites. One is a foundation he created help with overpopulation. The other is a 9/11 was an inside American job website.

Here is the module. If you search the forum you will find 4,800 mentions of Huawei. The term Cisco brings up 7 mentions. Netgear only 60. Ridiculous purely in terms of vendor favoritism.

EDIT: link - http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/

Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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I am sorry but as Canadian, I don't see much point of development in Canada's North. That part of Country is simply unsustainable for human settlement and whatever is there currently is on back off massive amount of investment in infrastructure, logistic and construction. Even basics such as milk has to be imported from other parts of Canada 1000s of kilometers away. Don't get me wrong - I applaud folks who have to l…

I would highly encourage you to read [1] to get a better sense of the potential available in the North. The arctic is estimated to have over 22% of the world's oil and gas reserve [2]. Around 10-12% of the world's population is dependent on fisheries and aquacultures for their livelihood [3], so naturally, as fisheries become depleted in other parts of the world [4], the value of Northern fish stock (especially wild caught) is likely to rise. Minerals are already extracted all around the northern territories, an increase in temperature is likely to make some regions/zones economically viable, just take a look at Europe and China's race towards Greenland's potential rare-metal stock [5]. As a trade route, it can be considered one of the safest and fastest route to connect the East of North America and Europe to Asian markets. Just to give you a sense of how much money circulates in Trade Routes, the Suez Canal in Egypt hit a record revenue of $5.5billion in 17-18 [6]. Even if the northern region only becomes viable for half of the year, it may still be worthwhile, just look at other industries (think Tourism) that are on the same boat.

Countries have gone to war for territory and resources for millennia, if Canada doesn't position itself well to protect it, someone else may come and try to take it away from you. This can happen via fisherman/oilers invading your territory, among many other ways. Always remember, if you are not willing to take the risks and investment is potentials, someone else is and when they strike gold, you may only be able to watch it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_resources_race [2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-arctic-insight-idU... [3] Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations [4] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/07/fish-stocks-are-used-... [5] https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/science/earth/arctic-reso... [6] https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-egypt-economy-suezcanal/eg...

Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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Has anyone asked why in the Linux Kernel there has been an extraordinary amount of work on Huawei in a few key networking files? In fact in such file the changelog since 2016 mentions Huawei more than any other proper noun combined . The person who is in charge of this module...runs two small sites. One is a foundation he created help with overpopulation. The other is a 9/11 was an inside American job website. Here i…

I wonder if it's just the same issue as HTC since it had so many networking bugs that it required much more code to make it work.

Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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If Huawei really wanted to drum up Canadian support, they would make claims that their technology will drive down mobile data prices in Canada.

If there’s a group that’s Canadians universally dread, it’s their telecoms. They should latch onto that.

5G is pointless tech in Canada: we have tons of excess capacity because telecoms can charge so much. Being able to go through my 4gb/month that I pay $40+/month for (long dead deal) in 7 minutes is not valuable to me.

But Huawei really fears pissing off the telecom oligopoly.

We pay some of the highest rates in the world, even in highly populated areas.

Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ontario transfers $1 billion a year to the Yukon for exactly the kind of Development you're talking about. It's growing and expanding just as the government wants it to.

Better not use that $1B to buy Huawei stuff.

Why? I'm honestly bothered by this Cold War mentality that has settled in people due to the amount of repetition that Huawei somehow is doing something bad yet no single piece of evidence has come out to support those claims.

Restricting competition by using FUD is nothing new to the Linux community, but seeing this being done at the govt level and people buying into this whole tribal mentality is astonishing. I have more issues with some monopolistic tendencies that companies like Google or Microsoft in the 90s had, especially with how Android is effectively becoming closed source through the Play Store and Services, yet you do not see that level of collective paranoia going on.

Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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I am sorry but as Canadian, I don't see much point of development in Canada's North. That part of Country is simply unsustainable for human settlement and whatever is there currently is on back off massive amount of investment in infrastructure, logistic and construction. Even basics such as milk has to be imported from other parts of Canada 1000s of kilometers away. Don't get me wrong - I applaud folks who have to l…

I would highly encourage you to read [1] to get a better sense of the potential available in the North. The arctic is estimated to have over 22% of the world's oil and gas reserve [2]. Around 10-12% of the world's population is dependent on fisheries and aquacultures for their livelihood [3], so naturally, as fisheries become depleted in other parts of the world [4], the value of Northern fish stock (especially wild…

As a counterpoint, we can agree that the sea has lots of resources as well and that does not mean that we are all going to live in an oil platform because that is simply not ideal. There are well paying jobs to be had in those regions, but I do believe the parent post has a point on limiting stuff. Is it economically viable to build a underwater community? towns in the middle of the mosquito infested Amazon? etc etc

Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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I am sorry but as Canadian, I don't see much point of development in Canada's North. That part of Country is simply unsustainable for human settlement and whatever is there currently is on back off massive amount of investment in infrastructure, logistic and construction. Even basics such as milk has to be imported from other parts of Canada 1000s of kilometers away. Don't get me wrong - I applaud folks who have to l…

I am sorry but, as a Canadian they way I understood it was that those people in our far north have sacrificed a lot of the every day freedoms and luxuries that we have in order for Canada to maintain territorial claim over the land. Our government literally scooped up people and their families and relocated them there and left them there to starve at first. If those communities were not there Canada would have lost claim to it. So we tax payers as you put it have agreed to have a higher welfare system up there for those people and to ship them milk and other supplies even though it cost ridiculous amounts of money. Because one day all that ice will free up and the amount of resources up there will be incredible.

Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is NOT in practice what happens. This way of framing it is popular by separatist segments in Alberta, but it's bullshit. Transfer payments come out of federal tax levies. No province is being targeted for levies. If one province has richer people and thus pay more in federal tax, then yes they will likely have a net loss in transfer payments. But this is no different than ANY federal service, whether it comes to…

That's exactly what happens via the unequal distribution of federal income to the provinces. We can argue that it's a good thing the program works the way it does and I'd argue, for the most part, that's true [0]. But all the programs you listed and the eq. program are net transfers from rich (and less politically powerful [1]) to poorer provinces. It's akin to when coastal Americans bemoan that fly over Americans ge…

> But all the programs you listed and the eq. program are net transfers from rich (and less politically powerful [1]) to poorer provinces.

Provinces don't pay tax. People do. They're net transfers from rich people (regardless of where they live) to poorer provinces. It just so happens that Alberta has a high per-capita income these days (not always the case). That's not a bad problem to have.

Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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Canada really needs to start developing the north properly, what with global warming and all.

A lot of our north is what is known as the Canadian Shield. It's very bad to develop on, and global warming will only do a little bit to improve that.

Re: Huawei heats up the battle for internet in Canada's north

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If Huawei really wanted to drum up Canadian support, they would make claims that their technology will drive down mobile data prices in Canada. If there’s a group that’s Canadians universally dread, it’s their telecoms. They should latch onto that. 5G is pointless tech in Canada: we have tons of excess capacity because telecoms can charge so much. Being able to go through my 4gb/month that I pay $40+/month for (long…

Equipment and phone makers need new "Gs" to sell more products, 5G overall is pointless. 5G may never be commercially viable in Canada.
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