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Want 1.5TB of RAM in Your PC? It Will Cost You

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Re: Want 1.5TB of RAM in Your PC? It Will Cost You

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in case you don't have $18,000 to buy those fancy brand new DDR4 RAM - second hand 64GB DDR3 ECC REG RAM is about $100 each, a dual socket c602 motherboard such as my Z9PE-D16 has 16 memory slots, having 16 x 64GB = 1TB RAM in such a workstation costs you $1,600. bargain!

Best place to pickup 2nd hand?

Re: Want 1.5TB of RAM in Your PC? It Will Cost You

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I've not owned one of those mini-macs. Was a bit surprised how it was put together from a servicing perspective. Way too much work to do something as simple as replacing the RAM, which I guess is what the intent was. I guess I should be more surprised it was not soldered to the mainboard.

Re: Want 1.5TB of RAM in Your PC? It Will Cost You

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post #18

This is a use case where persistent memory really shines. Its about 10x slower but you can get 1.5TB or it for less than $10,000. You don’t have to use the persistence - you can treat it as RAM.

with VROC or the Threadripper equivalent NVME CPU RAID, you can get 7Gbps read speed from a RAID5. Thats DDR2 speed.

Unless you truly need DDR4 speeds, I would think you would be better off for your money using CPU Raid and NVME. More drives, more speed. One guy used 8 drives and got 28Gbps.

https://i.imgur.com/AuCWq3r.jpg

Re: Want 1.5TB of RAM in Your PC? It Will Cost You

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post #12

I want to know why ECC RAM isn't more common. With the amount of RAM going into today's computers, it's insane not to protect it.

It costs something in terms of timing, power, complexity, and space overhead; software errors are by far the lower-hanging fruit for the overwhelming majority of systems.

Re: Want 1.5TB of RAM in Your PC? It Will Cost You

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I decided to put 32 GB of Ram in my home desktop some months back. I knew I didn’t need that much, but I figured macOS (it’s a Hackintosh) would use it for file caching or some such. To my disappointment, it goes completely unused more often than not. According to Activity Monitor, I currently have around 7 gb just sitting idle.

Does Activity Monitor report the page cache/UBC size? Most of the time, basically all of the memory I'm not using directly is filled with page cache. The other big thing large memory typically does for me is delay GC in the JVM.

Typically the only time I use enough memory that my working files don't fit in the page cache along with the application memory, is when I build Android.

It's possible you just don't have that much on your disk that you use.

Re: Want 1.5TB of RAM in Your PC? It Will Cost You

#27

If you're an enterprise that needs a single CPU server with 1.5TB of RAM (to run SAP HANA or some other in-memory DB most likely) then the RAM cost, or really the entire hardware cost, is probably the smallest line item in the entire business case, more or less a rounding error. The author seems to be approaching this from the standpoint of someone building a home rig for some reason.

Someone with a surplus of personal income will need that much ram just to post their Plex server on https://old.reddit.com/r/homelab.

Re: Want 1.5TB of RAM in Your PC? It Will Cost You

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post #12

I want to know why ECC RAM isn't more common. With the amount of RAM going into today's computers, it's insane not to protect it.

I only use it.

But "gamers" who like to overclock, and AMD users who use motherboards that don't generally support ECC don't care.

For professional work, I think you'd be crazy not to. You get 1 bit-flip per year per gigabyte. So for my 128GB system we use on desktop configurations and build servers we'd get 2 bit flips/week. Do you really want to send a build out to a customer that has a potential bit-flip in it?

Re: Want 1.5TB of RAM in Your PC? It Will Cost You

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I've done some shopping around, and the best pricing I can find puts these 128GB RAM at about $1,500. Each. Yes, each. Some back of the envelope math -- or math in your head if you are good at that sort of thing -- put the price of 1.5TB of RAM at a cool $18,000. If my memory serves me well, I routinely bought 1Mb RAM modules for 5.500 Spanish pesetas (33 Euro). This was around 1987-1990 I believe. If my math is righ…

I bought an 8MB RAM module at wholesale pricing in ~1993 for about $400, so that pricing seems a bit low to me, especially for the time window given.
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